Karl Rove’s Latest Meltdown: Founding Fathers Did Not Envision ‘King Barack I’
House Speaker John Boehner plans to sue President Obama for acting like he won the election. Every President before Obama has taken executive action. The last Congress was deemed the least productive in history, but never mind all that. Obama has a lot of nerve acting like he won the electoral and popular vote and should, by Republican-reasoning, kowtow to their unreasonable efforts to derail him.
Naturally, Karl Rove felt compelled to weigh in. Via Newsmax:
The framers of the Constitution did not envision “King Barack I” when they formed the separation of powers within the federal government, says Republican strategist Karl Rove.
Lawmakers are debating whether President Barack Obama is attempting to shift the balance of power to an imperial presidency by threatening to use executive action to bypass Congress and advance his policies.
The framers of the Constitution “did not want a king. They didn’t want King George III, and certainly didn’t want King Barack I,” Rove, former deputy chief of staff to President George W. Bush, told Fox News’ “America’s Newsroom” on Wednesday.
Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush Totaled 672 Executive Orders. Obama has 182. Where was their outrage before Obama?
The Huffington Post reports:
Unfortunately for Sen. Cruz and like-minded citizens, there’s nothing unprecedented about Obama’s recent activities. According to C-Span’s Congressional Glossary, an executive order is defined as, “a presidential directive with the force of law. It does not need congressional approval.” While many conservatives have labeled Obama’s unilateral decisions as imperial, or the actions of a “monarch,” the truth is that U.S. history is filled with Republican presidents who have been far more willing to take matters into their own hands.
Executive orders:
Abraham Lincoln 48
Ulysses S. Grant 217
Theodore Roosevelt 1,081
Dwight D. Eisenhower 484
Ronald Reagan 381
George W. Bush 291
Barack Obama 182
Before suing Obama, they need to look at Bush, or is there a statute of limitations for that sort of thing?
Tommy6860 July 2nd, 2014 at 7:00 pm
This from the butt-hat who was the court jester of King George Bush I.
Anomaly 100 July 2nd, 2014 at 7:04 pm
That was King Bush II.
Eric Trommater July 2nd, 2014 at 7:18 pm
George IX if we go back to the Hanovarians. I have no proof that Prescott Bush was decended from them except aren’t all rich people?
Anomaly 100 July 2nd, 2014 at 7:24 pm
My bad. You are correct. There have been many Georges.
Eric Trommater July 2nd, 2014 at 7:28 pm
Well if you include Washington that would be X but that would just be silly since he fought a war against George III and there can only be one at a time, right?
Anomaly 100 July 2nd, 2014 at 7:31 pm
I see. So you’re asking me to add and subtract stuff? It’s like you don’t even know me Suddenly.
Eric Trommater July 2nd, 2014 at 7:37 pm
Ok then it’s settled we’ll call him “George the Who the Hell Knows? I Stopped Counting After the Fat One with all Mistresses. What the Hell Do I Look Like a Math Nerd?”
M D Reese July 2nd, 2014 at 7:49 pm
I kinda like “George who the hell Cares” myself…
Eric Trommater July 2nd, 2014 at 7:52 pm
It’s shorter and would fit in a single Tweet! A win all the way around.
Anomaly 100 July 2nd, 2014 at 8:20 pm
Works for me. (Then I don’t have to add and subtract)
M D Reese July 2nd, 2014 at 7:48 pm
So many Bushes, so little time…
Carla Akins July 2nd, 2014 at 7:10 pm
When he pens an order eliminating Presidential term limits, and crowns himself the supreme leader – we’ll chat.
Eric Trommater July 2nd, 2014 at 7:25 pm
. . . or even if he does anything other than, I don’t know, run the Exectutive Branch of Governement or something. It’s not like he went on a Judicial firing spree targeting Judges that wouldn’t support voter supression or something. Now that would be over reach!
Carla Akins July 2nd, 2014 at 7:41 pm
Fabulous, but an overreach.
Saint_Augustine July 2nd, 2014 at 7:43 pm
After Hillary is elected but before the inauguration Republicans will probably introduce legislation to extend Obama’s term!
arc99 July 2nd, 2014 at 7:19 pm
Ever since election night 2012, just one word is necessary to convey Karl Rove’s complete irrelevance and obsolescence in the world of political punditry.
OHIO
Eric Trommater July 2nd, 2014 at 7:21 pm
. . . . and Virginia . . . and Colorodo . . . . and Florida . . . . and Ok got he got Indiana and North Carolinia right but those were frickin gimmes!
M D Reese July 2nd, 2014 at 7:47 pm
It really bothers them that Obama was actually ELECTED twice–not appointed by activist judges both times like Bush 43.
Eric Trommater July 2nd, 2014 at 7:20 pm
Why would Rove go and do something like this the week Stephen Colbert is on vaction? By the time he gets back it will be old news and I will never get to hear “Ham Rove’s” opinion on this! Unforgivable!
Carla Akins July 2nd, 2014 at 7:20 pm
John Oliver, Sunday nights.
Eric Trommater July 2nd, 2014 at 7:22 pm
It’s won’t be the same. Thank you for trying to console me though! You are a good person Carla!
Carla Akins July 3rd, 2014 at 4:18 am
I understand.
M D Reese July 2nd, 2014 at 7:43 pm
I need to discipline myself to watch him online if possible. I loved it when he sat in for Jon Stewart.
Carla Akins July 2nd, 2014 at 10:05 pm
Me too. I truly dreaded Stewart’s film vaca but Oliver had me won over by the second week. I was sad to see him go.
M D Reese July 2nd, 2014 at 7:42 pm
I had that very thought last night.
M D Reese July 2nd, 2014 at 7:41 pm
They sure don’t let facts get in the way…
Carla Akins July 2nd, 2014 at 7:42 pm
Pfft, why bother -they don’t count.
Pug July 2nd, 2014 at 8:00 pm
They don’t matter. The entire right wing noise machine is pushing this and the wingers are lapping it up.
fancypants July 2nd, 2014 at 8:00 pm
Every time you hear / see ” mr. brownstone ” fill it in with MR. ROVE
http://youtu.be/ck4j3g5JK9o
OrdinaryBloke July 2nd, 2014 at 8:01 pm
Shouldn’t Rove still be over the Koch’s knees, receiving his spanking for failing to buy the last presidential election?
JimNauseam July 2nd, 2014 at 8:07 pm
Rove makes his living insisting certain things are true that he knows damn well are NOT true. He’s a professional liar.
tiredoftea July 2nd, 2014 at 8:56 pm
You are too kind.
Obewon July 2nd, 2014 at 9:10 pm
Bush’s brain was kindly named Turdblossom giving Karl a leg-up by his “Unitary Executive” GWB. How did Rove’s $300 M 2012 Crossroads GPS donors fare? “A terrible waste of money”-Apprentice birther Donald Trump on Rove’s 501 (c) “50.1% Social Welfare organization.”
granpa.usthai July 2nd, 2014 at 10:10 pm
maybe if Czar Carl didn’t try so hard to cram Sara’s 10,000 flashing lights on US Constitutional History Kinda Sorta in a Backyards Sort of Way into a completed sentence?
Bob Waas July 2nd, 2014 at 11:00 pm
Obama Wins! He has now been voted as the worst president ever. Latest polls show that Obama doesn’t have a positive number in any category.
We told you he sucks. He is a narcissistic arrogant person who is only admired by those who worship this virtue in a leader.
m2old4bs July 2nd, 2014 at 11:45 pm
I think history will show the opposite to be true for it will not only disagree with the findings of this poll, but also will find that the movement you so proudly eschew has done more damage to our nation than anything done by our President.
Bob Waas July 3rd, 2014 at 10:27 am
Are you joking? We have fallen in every major category in the world rankings; even our credit worthiness fell.
Bunya July 2nd, 2014 at 11:46 pm
“…he sucks. He is a narcissistic arrogant person…”
Those are certainly terms I’d expect a good chrischun to use when referring to his fellow man.
Bob Waas July 3rd, 2014 at 10:24 am
Nothing un-Christian about calling it the way it is.
It would be a sin to make false accusations and would violate Commandment #9 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.”
Dwendt44 July 3rd, 2014 at 12:17 am
When you just poll the FakeNews office building, what other results would you expect?
Bob Waas July 3rd, 2014 at 10:20 am
Wrong, see above.
fancypants July 3rd, 2014 at 12:52 am
too bad this isn’t according to presidential historians Instead we have to listen to the clueless media and social networks until the more intelligent facts are gathered at the end of Obama’s second term.
You on the other hand would post anything that comes out of sesame street
Bob Waas July 3rd, 2014 at 10:20 am
It is the respected Quinnipiac University poll results. Funny how liberals put down SCOTUS, and respected polling firms when they don’t report what they want to hear.
“Quinnipiac’s Polling Institute receives national recognition for its independent surveys of residents throughout the United States. It conducts public opinion polls on politics and public policy as a public service as well as for academic research.[15] The poll has been cited by major news outlets throughout North America and Europe, including The Washington Post, Fox News, USA Today, The New York Times, CNN, and Reuters.
fancypants July 4th, 2014 at 3:53 am
15] The poll has been cited by major news outlets throughout North America and Europe, including The Washington Post, Fox News, USA Today, The New York Times, CNN, and Reuters.
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and how many times have all the above got it wrong ? Let me count the ways……………………
Bob Waas July 4th, 2014 at 12:12 pm
I understand, if you don’t like what the polls say, then you accuse them ALL of getting it all wrong.
I guess that is another way to ignore the truth.
neworleans878 July 3rd, 2014 at 12:57 am
Here we go again…accusing me of worship. FAIL.
Does the R.W. ever realize that the more you attack him, the more moderates like me dig in?
Bob Waas July 3rd, 2014 at 10:12 am
Attacks are when there are no facts to back it up.
Pointing out the continuous failures in ones performance is not an attack, it is an awakening to those who have been blinded by his failed promises. America is worse off under his presidency and America has finally woken up.
Bunya July 3rd, 2014 at 11:47 am
“Attacks are when there are no facts to back it up”
Keep gloating, Bob. Once you’re inevidently proven wrong (again), you’ll crawl back into your hole and say nothing. You know, just like you did when you trashed tortured POW Bowe Bergdahl because of what you heard on Fox “News”.
Bob Waas July 2nd, 2014 at 11:25 pm
More evidence that Obama earned his failing grade
During a speech a couple of days ago, Obama spoke in terms of prisoner swaps by Presidents at the end of wars:
Obama said, “This is what happens at the end of wars”, President Barack Obama said Tuesday when he was asked about swapping American Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl for five Taliban terrorists. “That was true for George Washington, that was true for Abraham Lincoln, that was true for FDR. That’s been true of every combat situation, that at some point, you make sure that you try to get your folks back. And that’s the right thing to do.”
For the record, the Revolutionary War ended in 1783. Washington did not become President until 1789. Lincoln was assassinated April 14, 1865, but the war officially ended a few days before on April 9, 1865. And FDR died before the end of WW II.
Therefore, none of the three mentioned Presidents were in office at the end of a war.
Once again it shows how little our current President knows about America and American History.
Bunya July 2nd, 2014 at 11:43 pm
Tsk. Still bitter huh, Bob?
Dwendt44 July 3rd, 2014 at 12:16 am
Well, still stupid at any rate.
Bob Waas July 3rd, 2014 at 12:34 am
Stupid was voting for Obama, idiotic was voting for him twice. Sorry, I don’t qualify.
arc99 July 3rd, 2014 at 12:37 am
stupid or idiotic as we are, we were still smart enough not to vote Republican. can’t say the same for you.
Bob Waas July 3rd, 2014 at 10:06 am
I agree, the choices were terrible. We both voted for the lesser of two evils. Romney is more pro-America than Obama.
neworleans878 July 3rd, 2014 at 12:54 am
Very glad I don’t keep company with you.
Bob Waas July 3rd, 2014 at 10:07 am
God bless you.
fancypants July 3rd, 2014 at 1:08 am
As if Romney would have better results ?
We would be involved in at least 2 more wars if that clown made it to DC ? don’t forget to count your blessings
Bob Waas July 3rd, 2014 at 10:02 am
A robot would have done a better job for America.
The folks who voted for him are suffering from buyers remorse; as the latest polls show.
“45 percent of voters say America would be better off if the White House went to the Republicans in 2012, compared to 38 percent who said we’d be worse off.
Also, more than half of Americans (54 percent) say the Obama Administration isn’t competent when it comes to running the government, while less than half (47 percent) say Obama pays enough attention to his own administration.”
fancypants July 4th, 2014 at 4:05 am
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e pluribus July 6th, 2014 at 1:58 pm
Are those statistics from a statistician, or from a poll conducted by some unreliable pollster? Some statisticians can bend the results to reflect whatever outcome is sought. Pollsters can likewise bend polls to reflect whatever result is sought. Just becaise someone publishes a result does not automatically mean the publication is true, or even accurate.
Bob Waas July 6th, 2014 at 7:48 pm
A statistician? You mean like Obewon who makes up numbers to suit his argument?
Just google what I posted for yourself. You’ll find the same info the rest of America already knows.
Bob Waas July 3rd, 2014 at 12:34 am
Not at all bitter, I didn’t vote for him. Those who voted for him and put all their trust in his big promises are the ones who are slowly getting buyers remorse; even the mainstream media has had enough as evidenced by the WH press corp briefings.
Bunya July 3rd, 2014 at 10:51 am
“Not at all bitter…”
Of course not, Bob. The conservatives consider a thriving economy, no war, and a drop in unemployment to be bad things. If this poll is factual, it just shows how many stupid people live in the U.S. Thank God Obamacare covers psychosis.
Bob Waas July 3rd, 2014 at 1:02 pm
A thriving economy? Where? The median family income in the U.S. is just over $53,000. That’s about 6 percent lower than the $56,271 the median household brought home in December 2007
“The U.S. economy contracted in the first quarter by the most since the depths of the last recession as consumer spending cooled.” http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-25/economy-in-u-s-shrank-in-first-quarter-by-most-in-five-years.html
The unemployment rate is all smoke and mirrors. The U6 is the actual rate and it sits at 13%
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101398855#.
Another indicator is the Youth Misery Index.
“The index has increased by 18.1 percent since Obama took office, the highest increase under any president, making Obama the worst president for youth economic opportunity”
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/15841/
I think we are still at war in Afghanistan and Al Qaeda, despite the president and vice president saying they were dead is in full attack mode across the world.
I’m not sure where you get your news from, but you may want to consider a new source.
Obama’s approval rating is down to 42%
http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/barack-obama-presidential-job-approval.aspx
Dwendt44 July 3rd, 2014 at 12:16 am
And therefore? Did prisoners of war get re-repatriated or did they not?
William July 3rd, 2014 at 12:35 am
My Gawd you’re still an idiot.
http://civilwarhome.com/prisonerexchange.htm
arc99 July 3rd, 2014 at 12:54 am
The President’s speech is the talking point of the day across the right wing blogosphere. Just like a good little robot, you faithfully parrot it here.
This forum is open to all. But please remember that the contempt you have for my beliefs and those of most of the regulars in this forum, is enthusiastically returned.
President Obama was elected and re elected. In January 2017 he will leave office, and despite this poll, with bin Laden dead, GM alive and millions of people with access to health insurance that they previously did not have, this country is a better place than it was in January 2009.
I don’t care whether you agree or not. Your ongoing efforts to portray the Iraq war as somehow the fault of Democrats when the majority of Democrats in Congress voted against the invasion, and a Republican was sitting in the oval office, demonstrate that the truth is not something that factors significantly into the opinions you express here.
Bob Waas July 3rd, 2014 at 10:33 am
I didn’t portray the Iraq war as the fault of the Democrats. I merely pointed out to you that our leadership collectively and with a legal vote in Congress made that decision. It is you who keeps blaming one party when both were complicit in the decision.
You listed his supposed accomplishments but failed to mention that our standing is the world is at its lowest ever and how he added 7 trillion dollars to the national debt and it is still climbing.
William July 3rd, 2014 at 12:43 am
Hey right wing. Keep listening to Karl. It worked out so well for you the last time
Thunderhead July 3rd, 2014 at 5:10 am
How dare he be President?!?!?!
Abby Normal July 3rd, 2014 at 6:54 am
Karl Rove has two moving parts – his mouth and his rectum and they’re interchangeable.
Rusty Shackleford July 3rd, 2014 at 8:35 am
The founding fathers didn’t envision black people or women voting either, so why should I give a crap what a bunch of rich white cishet slaveowning men dead for 200 years would think about contemporary issues?
GeoNorth July 3rd, 2014 at 10:39 am
Rove is a craven, racist idiot. Why is he even seen in public anymore?