Ferguson PD Video Backfires; Brown Seen Paying For Cigarillos
A hat tip to our good friends at AATTP and YouTube user Wango Tango. The Ferguson PD has a lot of explaining to do.
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D.B. Hirsch is a political activist, news junkie, and retired ad copy writer and spin doctor. He lives in Brooklyn, New York.
Foundryman August 18th, 2014 at 10:25 pm
Seems the thug here wasn’t such a thug after all….Any apologies from anyone yet?
Khary A August 18th, 2014 at 10:32 pm
real apologies…don’t hold your breath, snarky half assed ones…I’m sure we’ll get an ear full.
granpa.usthai August 19th, 2014 at 12:39 am
reminds me of the criminal act Trayvon Martin was engaging in when chased down by the armed neighborhood watch captain child stalking murderer with the white male Florida licenses. -? – even found out the murdered victim had traces of marijuana during the autopsy. Didn’t find any evidence that the murderer was high on cocaine though. Didn’t find any evidence in the vehicle he used to chase the victim down through the back yards of the gated community with his headlights on bright either.
M D Reese August 19th, 2014 at 2:40 am
The traces of cannabis could have been in his system for 30 days.
M D Reese August 19th, 2014 at 2:39 am
Yeah–Fox “news” will be all over it tomorrow–you know how they like to offer a correction when they’re wrong…
Foundryman August 19th, 2014 at 10:44 am
There’s always a first time for everything…
edmeyer_able August 18th, 2014 at 10:36 pm
Don’t expect anything from Ferguson PD, they scripted this whole thing from day one and now that the evidence that should have been collected last Saturday has been forever lost.
Foundryman August 18th, 2014 at 10:37 pm
I would think if the police chief had any decency at all, he would announce his resignation right after announcing Wilson has been arrested.
AnthonyLook August 18th, 2014 at 10:46 pm
That clerk has to be approached by reporters for the facts.
Tommy6860 August 18th, 2014 at 11:11 pm
Exactly my thoughts. Even then, what Cosmic said is spot on!
AnthonyLook August 19th, 2014 at 2:31 am
Cosmic is spot on. I do believe it was murder and I do believe it was racially motivated; if the perp was White, he would be alive. The police department has proven itself to be thwarting the public good; their actions are thuggish. No one has been killed, yet; but even that is calculated on their part and not heart felt. If the clerk can shed light on the facts then he should; maybe he is afraid of the police himself.
M D Reese August 19th, 2014 at 2:38 am
If Michael had been a white teen, they probably would have taken him in for a talking to (with finger-wagging!) and then called his folks to come pick him up.
AnthonyLook August 19th, 2014 at 2:42 am
Just like school boards, many police departments, espcially in the sough have, intentionally and in a coordinated fashion, been infected by right wing racists with an agenda. It often appears like it’s an ever escalating movement of racial intimidation.
tiredoftea August 18th, 2014 at 11:47 pm
Certainly the police aren’t!
M D Reese August 19th, 2014 at 2:36 am
I was just thinking that. Hopefully the FBI is doing a better job. It seems to me that interviewing the clerk would be high on the list.
Carla Akins August 19th, 2014 at 5:05 am
CNN interviewed the shop owner on Sunday according to some tweets I’ve seen, I try and find it today.
AnthonyLook August 19th, 2014 at 9:59 pm
Every shop, has a camera directly aimed at the till; I’d like to see that video from that angle.
Cosmic_Surfer August 18th, 2014 at 10:58 pm
A lot of assumptions on both sides about a grainy video that doesn’t really show anything- and guess what? It doesn’t matter what happened in that store. he was gunned down in the street – unarmed and not resisting or running away from the police. It doesn’t matter if he robbed a store, hit a cop or punched out a door. The only thing that matters is the kid was shot 6 times facing the cop and not trying to get away, unarmed and fully complaint. Still murder
Obewon August 18th, 2014 at 11:13 pm
Michael Brown was an honorable paying customer! Proving once again that only a truly stupid racist would defend shooter Darren Wilson executing a jaywalker from 33 feet away with 6+ Gunshots killing the unarmed teenager.
Didn’t GOP TV broadcast the Ferguson Police Chief admitting the teen was only stopped for jaywalking? GOP TV outreach to minority voters: “FOX News has jumped on the “thug” train, as well, suggesting that the “robbery” video justifies the murder of Michael Brown” Despicable!
John Tarter August 19th, 2014 at 7:15 am
And all the previous shots did not slow down the 6 ft, 280 pound Michael Brown. Let’s see, you are an average size cop, have a weapon and a large man is rushing you in a rage, what DO YOU DO?
Yenta August 19th, 2014 at 8:15 am
You lie. Then you lie some more. Because it never happened. But people like you want so badly to believe Brown was a “thug”, and stupid enough to charge a man who is just itching to pull that trigger. Brown was 6’4″, by the way. Get your facts straight.
Obewon August 19th, 2014 at 11:39 am
PD aren’t supposed to be paranoid of an unarmed 18 year old 33 feet away. Dr. Baden actually said ’33 feet away’ and: “This one here looks like his head was bent downward,” he said, indicating the wound at the very top of Mr. Brown’s head. “It can be because he’s giving up, or because he’s charging forward at the officer.” -The bullets did not appear to have been shot from very close range because no gunpowder was present on his body. http://www.alan.com/2014/08/17/michael-brown-autopsy-is-in-ferguson-teeanger-was-shot-at-least-6-times/
LX-23 August 20th, 2014 at 10:03 pm
Please direct me to the source of that quote from Dr.Baden. Because in all the pictures I’ve seen of Michael Brown he just looks fat, not muscular.
Daniel Jacobsen August 18th, 2014 at 11:15 pm
And they cut it so we wouldn’t see him acting like a thug !!!!!!!
Anomaly 100 August 18th, 2014 at 11:32 pm
Good try! Here, have a cookie.
Tommy6860 August 18th, 2014 at 11:45 pm
Why does it seem it’s only the afflicted white whiners post or comment on articles that regard racial issues. Anything else, they just wait for the curtain calls.
Anomaly 100 August 18th, 2014 at 11:53 pm
IMO, the far right’s inherent racism stems from their parents, grandparents, etc. It’s a vicious cycle and if one of the family members can’t break it, it just continues.
Tommy6860 August 18th, 2014 at 11:55 pm
True that, and had I not been friends with a totally awesome family, I could have been one of those bigots.
edmeyer_able August 18th, 2014 at 11:57 pm
The right wing has made a living by convincing poor white people that somewhere a black man has it better than they do.
raincheck August 19th, 2014 at 7:28 am
Not only convincing poor white people that somewhere a black man has it better than they do…. but convincing them it is at their expense…. You nailed it!!
burqa August 18th, 2014 at 11:20 pm
This story illustrates why we should wait for all the facts before taking decisions.
edmeyer_able August 18th, 2014 at 11:23 pm
But the facts have been destroyed, evidence that was in that car has been scrubbed clean.
Tommy6860 August 18th, 2014 at 11:44 pm
And still no official police report, as far as I know as of right now.
labman57 August 18th, 2014 at 11:21 pm
To no one’s surprise, the Ferguson PD appears to be attempting to create evidence to support a preconceived conclusion, all while misrepresenting evidence that does not support said conclusion.
Foundryman August 18th, 2014 at 11:33 pm
This pretty much shows just how corrupt the Ferguson police are. Wonder if they’ll roll out the tanks again.
edmeyer_able August 18th, 2014 at 11:42 pm
There was a disturbance from the back of the crowd and the instigators were singled out and taken away.
granpa.usthai August 19th, 2014 at 12:45 am
Too bad white officials can’t be charged with fabricating/altering evidence in a criminal conspiracy to cover up the shooting of a jaywalker who would have been guilty of being in possession of a deadly weapon for standing on a sidewalk, huh?
Viking_61 August 18th, 2014 at 11:33 pm
Nothing was funnier than watching all the black women saying “he be photoshopped! He be photoshopped!” LOL
Anomaly 100 August 18th, 2014 at 11:43 pm
Say what?
Edit: Never mind. I read your comment history. Take the hood of your head.
edmeyer_able August 18th, 2014 at 11:45 pm
You’re going to need a lot of cookies.
Anomaly 100 August 18th, 2014 at 11:51 pm
I can see that. Amazing isn’t it? Ferguson has brought out the worst in some people.
M D Reese August 19th, 2014 at 2:31 am
I really do hope that the robbery is proven to be false–not because it had anything to do with him being murdered, but because it will be nice to shove it in the faces of the right wing racist crowd.
Anomaly 100 August 19th, 2014 at 8:10 am
Ditto!
R.J. Carter August 19th, 2014 at 10:38 am
You do realize that having a hope for a particular outcome, for a particular self-satisfying reason, is on the same par with those hoping that the police officer is exonerated so they can do the same to the left wing crowd, don’t you?
M D Reese August 19th, 2014 at 2:29 am
I just skimmed the first two and gagged and flagged it.
Foundryman August 19th, 2014 at 12:09 am
Oh I don’t know, I can think of a couple things funnier. Like a bunch of armed loons running out to the desert to defend a millionaire rancher who wanted to feed his cattle for free on land he didn’t own,talk about a welfare queen or king… now that’s funny.
Or maybe the one about some racists KKK boys claiming they’re going to march into a riot to “protect” some white business owners in an area where there aren’t any. Now that’s funny…
M D Reese August 19th, 2014 at 2:28 am
Any bets on whether they’ll defend black-owned businesses?
Anomaly 100 August 19th, 2014 at 8:10 am
That’s a sucker’s bet.
Chinese Democracy August 19th, 2014 at 1:53 am
whats funny is your nic. A viking would never cut eye holes in a pillow case in order to hide like a beotch
LOL!
Viking_61 August 19th, 2014 at 3:25 am
Keep worshiping your retarded negroes.
Carla Akins August 19th, 2014 at 4:52 am
You are done here. Don’t come back.
Yenta August 19th, 2014 at 8:08 am
Yayyyy! I’m sure the KKK is missing him, anyway…
Viking_61 August 20th, 2014 at 12:00 am
I don’t intent on returning to this communist backwater anyways.
tiredoftea August 18th, 2014 at 11:49 pm
This is way beyond a rush to judgement by the PD, and all of its apologists.
granpa.usthai August 19th, 2014 at 12:54 am
actually, had Michael not been black, it would be considered a criminal conspiracy to fabricate/alter/tamper with evidence. But, I’m sure when the WHITE RACIST TERRORIST supported by the WHITE RACIST REPUBLICANS in the US CONGRESS gather in mass to stop traffic in Ferguson, the Fed’s will be more willing to ‘overlook’ those small details in the interest of having a peaceful route to safety. Nothing like having an uncontrollable group of heavily armed WHITE RACIST TERRORIST locking and loading on you to inspire a ‘peaceful full and complete unquestionable retreat’.
John Tarter August 19th, 2014 at 7:11 am
And here in America we do not have a Federal Justice Department. We have a liberal, leftist, racist, highly political Obama/Holder Justice Department. The inmates are now running the asylum!
As for a retreat, the autopsy paid for by the family says otherwise. YOU CAN’T DEAL WITH THE TRUTH.
Yenta August 19th, 2014 at 8:07 am
Oh, boo hoo. We have a Black man in the Oval Office, and a Black man in the top position of the DoJ, and that just chaps your ass, doesn’t it?
Yenta August 19th, 2014 at 8:39 am
That is just WAYYY too much power for those racists who are only comfortable when some white guys are running the show! LMAO!!
R.J. Carter August 18th, 2014 at 11:52 pm
And yet another trickle of information that changes the course of this thing. I expect it will incite even more violence, alas.
tiredoftea August 19th, 2014 at 1:14 am
At this point, perhaps rightly so.
jasperjava August 19th, 2014 at 1:41 am
How so?
Michael Brown was unjustly killed, whether he stole cigars or not. The false “robbery” story was a red herring all along.
Chinese Democracy August 19th, 2014 at 1:49 am
another red herring.. There was marijuana in mike’s system. Ohhhh That must be why he was shot 6 times
M D Reese August 19th, 2014 at 2:26 am
And never mind that cannabis can be detected in your system for up to 30 days. To say that someone had cannabis in their system really doesn’t mean anything.
Yenta August 19th, 2014 at 8:05 am
That’s true. And, according to all the video I’ve seen of these cops since this started, wearing a badge and carrying a gun makes people aggressive!
John Tarter August 19th, 2014 at 7:00 am
But what if he did charge the officer a rage? Remember he is over 6 ft tall and 280 pounds. What would YOU have done had you been in that cops shoes? You claim one thing and someone else claims another and it will all come out with a thorough investigation and perhaps a trial.
Yenta August 19th, 2014 at 8:04 am
“But what if he did charge the officer in a rage?” But what if he DIDN’T? There are several eye witnesses who say otherwise. You seem to only want to believe the cop, who is too cowardly to come to a press conference and tell his story. He has somebody else doing his talking.
R.J. Carter August 19th, 2014 at 9:19 am
There are eyewitnesses who say both. Sadly, nobody turned on their videocameras until after the shots were fired (and why should they,really), so at the moment we only have competing stories.
Yenta August 19th, 2014 at 9:41 am
Point taken. However, I believe ALL the witnesses say Brown was surrendering and the cop kept shooting. As for the autopsy, how does anyone shoot a man who is 6’4″ in the apex of his skull unless that big man is on his knees? Would a man who is charging have his arms at his side, pumping, or facing forward to allow four shots to hit where they hit?
Gee, R.G. Can’t you let John defend himself? 😉
PNUT1 August 19th, 2014 at 1:23 pm
Just because you and probably a very high percentage of conservatives are scared of young black men doesn’t mean that everyone else is. That is your baggage.
M D Reese August 19th, 2014 at 2:24 am
When I first saw the video it looked to me as it Michael and/or his friend had paid for the cigars as well. Hopefully the FBI and Justice Dept. will actually interview the people in the store at the time and get to the bottom of it. It doesn’t make a damn bit of difference regarding his murder though.
Bryan Kilburn August 19th, 2014 at 4:54 am
Looks like a strong arm robbery to me. I c no money being exchanged….. I c no money given back to Mr. Brown (change from purchase)…. I do c Mr. Brown reach across the counter and grab a bunch of stuff/cigars and drop it on the floor then pick it up and leave….. This just proves the police statement MORE!!!!!! Where’s the video from behind the counter?
Herb Sarge Phelps August 19th, 2014 at 5:03 am
Why didn’t the store file charges, and why didn’t the police go to it only AFTER the death? Seems sort of odd even to a numb skull that the facts don’t seem to add up to a robbery, plus regardless, the crime doesn’t justify the killing if it had been a crime.
Bryan Kilburn August 19th, 2014 at 6:18 am
Not sure how long you have been following the story, but the police did go to the store before Mr. Brown was encountered by officer Wilson. The police at the store cleared the scene, Mr. Brown had left, and went in the direction he had walked looking for him. At about this time, or shortly thereafter, Mr. Brown was confronted by officer Wilson. Then later went back to look at the stores videos….
Bryan Kilburn August 19th, 2014 at 6:24 am
And none of this matters if Mr. Brown assaulted officer Wilson as some eye witnesses have confirmed. Its a sad situation for all parties that could have been avoided, but something went terribly wrong and neither you nor I is Darren Wilson but I gotta ask “what would you do”?
Linda1961 August 19th, 2014 at 6:57 am
The only witnesses who have confirmed that Mike Brown assaulted Wilson are Wilson himself and his girlfriend.
Bryan Kilburn August 19th, 2014 at 7:22 am
There is a video with conversation in the background between 2 ppl that are talking about the struggle officer Wilson had with Mr. Brown INSIDE THE POLICE VEHICLE!!!!! Now tell me officer Wilson assaulted Mr. Brown inside the vehicle? Come on ppl wake up
Yenta August 19th, 2014 at 8:01 am
Why don’t you provide a link to that video? I’ve been following this store from the beginning. The witnesses ALL say there was a struggle but Brown was never inside the car. Brown pulled away from the officer and RAN. Did you actually read the story above? “In any case, neither the employee nor the store owner called law
enforcement–something that would surely happen if Brown committed a
“strong-arm robbery.”” In all the accounts I’ve read, nobody has ever claimed that the store clerk was interviewed. Don’t you think that would be a part of any “robbery” investigation? Come on, Bryan…wake up!
Bryan Kilburn August 19th, 2014 at 8:52 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2727321/Conversation-recorded-bystander-just-moments-Michael-Brown-shooting-casts-doubt-claims-teen-surrendered-Officer-Darren-Wilson.html
Yenta August 19th, 2014 at 9:00 am
The video/audio confirms that the cop was in the car, and there was a struggle. It does NOT say Brown was in the car. All the eye witnesses have said Brown was never in the car. The man who was with Brown has said the cop reached out from the window of the car and grabbed Brown by the neck, and Brown struggled to GET AWAY from the cop. All the witnesses say he ran FROM the cop. There is nothing in that recording that disputes that account.
mea_mark August 19th, 2014 at 9:12 am
Thanks for providing a link. It does not entirely substantiate your claim though. Be careful about what you say.
Bryan Kilburn August 19th, 2014 at 9:27 am
you can delete me at any time sir, i have no agenda. Im not calling ppl names as you called me.
Bryan Kilburn August 19th, 2014 at 9:27 am
mea_mark
You
better come up with a link proving there is a video or you will have
your comments deleted for out right lies that are instigating in nature.
Trolls that lie like this are not welcome here.
Bryan Kilburn August 19th, 2014 at 9:12 am
maybe Mr.Brown was not fully inside the vehicle but evidence seems to be growing that officer Wilson was/had been in an altercation with Mr.Brown near the vehicle. So if the weapon was fired inside the vehicle their will be evidence to support this. Then officer Wilson will be justified in his actions because it will prove that Mr.Brown went for his weapon. At that point its bad news for all ppl involved. I wish we werent tlking bout this but we are……. back on point. If none of this proves to be true then officer Wilson will have to face murder charges. Gunning down a man that was surrendering, as first thought, is a horrible crime and he will pay for his actions. But as the evidence keeps growing…………. the ppl that are tearing Ferguson apart, might want to seriously reconsider what they are doing. Knock it off
Janet D'Angelo Beardsley August 19th, 2014 at 9:17 am
What about the people tearing Mr Brown apart? There has been a conscious effort to denigrate him from the beginning.
Yenta August 19th, 2014 at 9:31 am
Officer Wilson SHOULD face murder charges, but that doesn’t mean he will. Here is a little history about what has happened previously in Ferguson under the same Chief of Police, Tom Jackson. It’s called “Missouri Cops’ License to Kill”. It’s an interesting read, if you are inclined to want to understand why the Black citizens of Ferguson are fed up with the cops. Most people in Ferguson do not believe those who are tearing things apart actually live in Ferguson. They’re just using it as an excuse to vent their own anger at police who don’t respect them, and in fact target them. If you hit a dog enough times, it WILL bite. And, by the way, the “other” Michael Brown who is mentioned in this story is white.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/19/missouri-cops-license-to-kill.html
LX-23 August 20th, 2014 at 10:10 pm
http://fox2now.com/2014/08/15/store-owners-talk-about-surveillance-released/
mea_mark August 19th, 2014 at 8:48 am
You better come up with a link proving there is a video or you will have your comments deleted for out right lies that are instigating in nature. Trolls that lie like this are not welcome here.
Janet D'Angelo Beardsley August 19th, 2014 at 9:05 am
Where is the photo of an “assaulted” officer? Where are the forensics of the inside of the car? The officer disappeared immediately after so there is no photo to prove or disprove he was assaulted, if there was they would have shown it by now. Hell even zimmerman was able to fake some photo evidence!
Yenta August 19th, 2014 at 9:15 am
Yessssss! There is video of the “assaulted” officer pacing by Brown’s body immediately after the murder. He wasn’t rushed to the hospital. There is no evidence that he ever went, even though the Chief of Police in Ferguson said so.
http://www.ibtimes.com/new-video-mike-brown-shooting-released-witness-paiget-crenshaw-they-killed-him-1661840
Janet D'Angelo Beardsley August 19th, 2014 at 9:56 am
Ok, I watched the video, there is still no proof the officer was assaulted. I’m talking photos that show he was hit, scratched whatever… assaulted, no blood, no bruises, no scraps, nothing. If they had it they would have shown it.
edmeyer_able August 19th, 2014 at 7:55 am
Wilsons GF is not a witness, she only repeated what wilson told her to say.
Yenta August 19th, 2014 at 8:31 am
Exactly. And that’s all they’ve got!
Yenta August 19th, 2014 at 8:41 am
That might be more truthiness than he can handle. 😉
Bryan Kilburn August 19th, 2014 at 9:14 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ_RpVSjr6w
Yenta August 19th, 2014 at 9:21 am
Oh, goody, you found a video of a Black man that supports your views. You think that makes your comments acceptable, because you found a Black dude who said what you’d like to say. For every one like him, there are hundreds who don’t feel the way he does. He sounds self-loathing to me.
Bryan Kilburn August 19th, 2014 at 9:33 am
thats the best you got? thats an argument? Heck i dont care what happens in Ferguson…… u worry bout it
Yenta August 19th, 2014 at 9:43 am
You’ve commented 10 times on this post. And I do believe you when you say you don’t care what happens in Ferguson. You’re just here trolling.
Baakus August 19th, 2014 at 11:51 am
Not to mention all the White people supporting the Black protesters.
Herb Sarge Phelps August 19th, 2014 at 12:29 pm
First I was trained in Law Enforcement and Security by the U.S. Air Force, So what would I do since I have actually had experience? The thing to do is not to be a bully and abuse your authority because you are angry. I would have ask him and his friend how they were and then politely asked if they would move over to the sidewalk so they wouldn’t get hit and not block traffic. From his friend’s account, they told Wilson that they were almost where they were going and would be there in a seconds, I would have let them go home with a nice thanks fellows.
This was typical in response to what cops did in my hometown back in the 60s with blacks. This has racism and corruption written all over it, and I would expect McCollough (or however he spells it) is a typical good ole boy who secretly hates blacks but in public would never admit to it. It feels and sounds like Jim Crow and having grown up in it in Mississippi I kind of know what it looks like when I see it.
BanditBasheert August 19th, 2014 at 1:00 pm
I have a friend who went into Security in the Air Force .. so he could have a weapon and SHOOT things.
That was his only purpose.
BanditBasheert August 19th, 2014 at 12:59 pm
Why didn’t someone call 911?
dave-dr-gonzo August 19th, 2014 at 1:16 pm
Get your eyes checked, There is a clear exchange of money.
ISeeApes August 19th, 2014 at 1:37 pm
When, exactly? The original video at youtube says “At 36 seconds you can clearly see the clerk clasp currency in his hands.” and anyone who actually watches it can clearly see that no such thing occurs as claimed by you libtards. You should rename your website to “Naive Gullible LibtardLand”.
Carla Akins August 19th, 2014 at 2:23 pm
I have deleted you last offensive comment. You are done here.
JeffreyPtr August 19th, 2014 at 6:26 am
The video only indicates Mr. Brown had a tendency to use his size to intimidate people and force his will on others. That he did or did not pay is irrelevant in the context of what directly led to his death. Mr. Brown, at 18, should not have been buying tobacco at all.
Linda1961 August 19th, 2014 at 6:59 am
And Wilson used his gun to kill an unarmed teenager for jaywalking. What happened in the shop had nothing to do with what happened on the street.
JeffreyPtr August 19th, 2014 at 9:11 am
Jaywalking may have been what started the entire mess, I doubt he was shot for that precise reason. I don’t pretend to know if the evidence will eventually show the shooting was justified or not. The mob doesn’t know either. Most have taken rumor and the spin from media and grief stricken family members and constructed a story to fit their prejudices. The cop was found guilty in their mind because it fits their world view, not because the facts are known and support that verdict yet.
mea_mark August 19th, 2014 at 9:16 am
Maybe if the police department had been more forthcoming from the beginning and not acting like they were covering things up, people would feel differently. The FPD have done a lousy job from the get go and now have had time to make evidence disappear if that was their intention. The distrust is there because of the FPD’s actions.
Yenta August 19th, 2014 at 9:46 am
Exactly. And there are more reasons why the people don’t trust the FPD: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/19/missouri-cops-license-to-kill.html
BanditBasheert August 19th, 2014 at 12:58 pm
I would prefer to NOT believe he was shot for being black. Cops have “lost it” before and shot people (unarmed) when a situation has escalated out of control.
As long as the cop stays in hiding, there is no statement, there is no original autopsy, there is no analysis of Mr. Brown’s clothing, it looks like and it smells like a coverup.
Yenta August 19th, 2014 at 8:51 am
That your focus is on whether he should have been buying tobacco is telling. And you can “tell” that he had a “tendency” to use his size to intimidate people and “force his will on others.” Yet, you haven’t noticed how the cops have routinely intimidated people and forced their will on others, including reporters who were NOT being violent, looting, or throwing things. They simply have been trying to do what their bosses sent them to do. One crew had tear gas thrown at them while they were standing on a sidewalk, quietly going about their business. These cops don’t want the media recording what they are doing, because it might prevent them from forcing their will on others. They even confiscated cell phones of witnesses who were recording them as they paced by Mke Brown’s body. THAT’S intimidation.
JeffreyPtr August 19th, 2014 at 9:24 am
There are many things to look at, but not on a statistical basis. This one cop has to be examined, his story placed under a microscope. The dead man must also be looked at. This particular young man shoved a store owner, did he rob him, did he refuse to show ID for a purchase? All we get from the video is a picture of aggression.
I’m not willing to say this cop shot because many cops are bad, any more then I’m willing to say all Irish are X, all Mexicans are Y, all African Americans are Z. I’d like to give he authorities time to uncover all the facts, not react based on any prejudice.
Yenta August 19th, 2014 at 9:52 am
You don’t seem to notice that in the video the clerk put his hands on Brown FIRST, and that’s when Brown shoved him. The clerk was the first aggressor.
“I’d like to give he authorities time to uncover all the facts, not react based on any prejudice.” That’s funny. The citizens of Ferguson would like to see all the facts uncovered, but they don’t have confidence that the FPD is trying to uncover the facts. They believe the opposite, and that’s what this is all about. They have REASON to distrust the FPD.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/19/missouri-cops-license-to-kill.html
JeffreyPtr August 19th, 2014 at 12:19 pm
Their lack of confidence is one issue, the mob’s interest in instant justice based on rumor is another. The earliest rumors said Mr. Brown was shot in the back, we now know he wasn’t. Witness statements are conflicting some say Mr. Brown was surrendering some say he was charging, so we don’t have clear answers yet.
The mother described her son as a gentle giant, the video shows he was quite capable of using his size and strength against others. Without audio we don’t know what was said in that store or if the owner had a right to try to stop Mr. Brown from leaving or if he was in fact trying to stop him.
I don’t know if the FPD has any history of problems with its community or not. Perhaps it does, but the behavior of others doesn’t automatically translate into Mr. Wilson being guilty of anything.
BanditBasheert August 19th, 2014 at 12:56 pm
We do NOT know that. Mr. Brown was being shot at as he ran away. Witnesses state that. Even his friend did NOT say he was shot in the back. He said he heard a shot, Brown stopped, raised his hands and turned around.
It is possible that the bullet grazed the medial aspect of Brown’s right arm from back to front depending upon the arm position at the time the bullet hit him. THAT may have caused him to stop and turn.
You don’t KNOW if the FPD has problems?
Perhaps you should listen to the multiple stories from the people in Ferguson regarding police stops, interrogations while coming home from shopping, kids getting hassled walking from school. 97% of stops were in the African American community!
BanditBasheert August 19th, 2014 at 12:53 pm
We have not heard his story. We have no information at all on any of the crime scene evidence. We have no police report.
THIS is transparency?
IF Michael Brown had killed DarrenWilson, he’d already be dead.
BanditBasheert August 19th, 2014 at 12:52 pm
Lets see if anything changes tonight. The cops are wanting to keep the media totally away from anything that might happen. Because THEY can’t handle the crowd the way they want, they don’t want it recorded.
CakeinBedWithYou August 19th, 2014 at 12:40 pm
It’s legal to buy tobacco at 18.
BanditBasheert August 19th, 2014 at 12:51 pm
This has to be the most singularly STUPID comment on this entire thread.
barefoot bob August 19th, 2014 at 6:37 am
Has anyone thought to ask the clerk what transpired ? Could answer a lot of questions.
Baakus August 19th, 2014 at 11:50 am
The fact that the police haven’t questioned him just shows that it would probably hurt their story. If Brown did indeed rob the store in a violent manner, then why wouldn’t the police simply get the cashier to confirm ASAP and make Brown look like a bad guy?
BanditBasheert August 19th, 2014 at 12:50 pm
Did you see the Ferguson PD chief?
If he got any whiter – he’d absolutely give off light.
He has a meme .. he will say/do anything to make it look that way.
John Tarter August 19th, 2014 at 6:53 am
Good try, but you cannot explain away what is really on the video. Despite Sharptons claim that he was only shoplifting, this is still stealing in my book. As for the autopsy, I heard Dr. Baden himself say that all the wounds were caused by FRONTAL entry. You libs will stop at noting to deny the truth.
raincheck August 19th, 2014 at 7:15 am
“Sharptons claim that he was only shoplifting” isn’t a denial of him “stealing” (which is STILL irrelevant to him being killed) Baden ALSO said one of the wounds could have been caused by a bullet from behind… What difference does it make if the bullets came from the front or from behind? The real crime is a cop killing an unarmed man… another crime being committed here is people like you thinking this is all OK
John Tarter August 19th, 2014 at 7:35 am
And I have one more question. Why didn’t Michael Brown’s friend not get shot? I mean if this cop just shot Mr. Brown for no good reason, why didn’t he just go ahead and shoot the other guy?
Yenta August 19th, 2014 at 8:30 am
If you notice the diagram where the bullets struck Brown, it looks like the cop had to empty his clip before he got the last two shots where he wanted them. By that time, the other guy was hiding, and the cop realized the neighbors were watching…and recording him, as he paced by the body, looking at his handy work…
BanditBasheert August 19th, 2014 at 12:49 pm
I think he was pacing because his adrenalin had reduced – and he was thinking “damn why didn’t I use the throwdown gun I had in my sock”?
I believe he killed Brown because he perceived him as a threat (right or wrong) – anytime a body is in a “gunfight” (even tho there was only ONE gun) -adrenalin is pumped into the body. When it leaves, it can leave a person “drained”.
I believe the cop overreacted – he conducted a panicked execution and he realized he couldn’t cover it up.
The way the police treated the body was disgusting…
BanditBasheert August 19th, 2014 at 12:46 pm
No one said he shot Mr. Brown for no good reason. Unlike YOU, we don’t know the entire story. According to his friend, he was hiding behind a car.
I believe the ME stated the gun could hold up to 12 shots. There is at least one shot that was found in a house. There were “at least” 6 shots for Michael Brown.
I don’t believe Wilson was re-enacting the Gunfight At the OK Corral. He shot Brown, repeatedly … if there was a confrontation at the car, he wouldn’t have gone after the other guy – he would have gone after the one who scuffled with him at the car. His attention was on Brown. The focus was on Brown. The other guy was not perceived as a threat.
Can’t have it both ways TaterTot. As hard as you try, you are still wrong and incredibly prejudiced.
dave-dr-gonzo August 19th, 2014 at 1:15 pm
Am I the only one who believes Tater Teat doesn’t like, um, ahem, “blah” people (as Atrios says)?
John Tarter August 19th, 2014 at 2:30 pm
Ah, so you admit there was some sort of confrontation at the car, and the possibilities exists that this could be a totally justifiable shooting.
And now we can also see that the hands up and surrendering And him getting shot in the back claim holds no water.
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 4:27 pm
The autopsy confirms that Brown had bullet wounds on his arm that appears to been inflicted while his arms were raised. Also the grazing wound that was also noted could be why Brown surrendered with his hands up and turned around to face the officer. The autopsy also indicate that Brown was shot twice in the head which could mean that he was on his knees when he got hit in the head. Unless Officer Wilson was aiming for a head shot when shooting Brown, it is more conceivable that Officer Wilson was indiscriminately firing his gun at Brown even after Brown had surrender and turned around to give himself up. But I’m sure the only one still holding water for the action of a murderous cop is you. Depending on some limitation officers are not allowed to shoot at unarmed fleeing suspects. I don’t know what Missouri actually has on the books but would be curious to know and what the Supreme Court has to say.
PNUT1 August 19th, 2014 at 1:14 pm
He was hiding behind a car. Besides, there is a one ” darkie ” per day bag limit for the FPD .
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 3:56 pm
Apparently Brown’s friend was not running away, so he was spared. Officer Wilson only decided to kill Brown after trying to escape. It is conceivable that there was a struggle between Brown and Wilson. Rather there was a struggle with a gun has no bearing since Officer Wilson still had complete control of the weapon at the time of the shooting. So we are left to believe the accounts of witnesses saying that Brown was running away from the officer when Officer Wilson took chase and fired shoots at Brown. Witnesses also say that Brown had his hands up when officer finally shot him down.
Since autopsy confirms a grazing shot, it is conceivable that Brown stopped funning after being hit and turned around to surrender with his hands up. But Office Wilson continued firing shots at Brown leave additional wounds, twice to Browns head ultimately killing him. Subsequent autopsy report from forensic investigator hired by Brown’s family also noted that Brown’s right arm had bullet wounds giving the impression that his arm was raised during the shooting. The official autopsy from FBI and Fugerson prosecutor findings are still to be released. Only a trial will shed light as to what happened and why Officer Wilson decide to take his gun out and shot at Brown. But before justice is served, Wilson needs to be accountable and charged with Brown’s death.
John Tarter August 19th, 2014 at 7:41 am
Not okay, but as more come out maybe the shooting was legally justifiable. We are all speculating. Maybe we should step back and let the legal system do its thing.
raincheck August 19th, 2014 at 7:50 am
You also said…. “And all the previous shots did not slow down the 6 ft, 280 pound
Michael Brown. Let’s see, you are an average size cop, have a weapon
and a large man is rushing you in a rage, what DO YOU DO?”…. “Rushing you in a rage?” REALLY?
BanditBasheert August 19th, 2014 at 12:41 pm
Tater is the ONLY one (aside from Wilson’s female defender who anonymously phoned a RADIO STATION to give his side of the story) who believes that Brown was “rushing him in a rage”.’
Of course the witnesses all say that Brown turned around with his hands raised but shooting him is apparently justified because he was Walking While Black.
PNUT1 August 19th, 2014 at 1:11 pm
Who in the hell is going to run at someone with a taser, baton, mace, and a gun ?
That “marijuana” made him crazy talk reminds me of that stupid “Reefer Madness” movie, pure fiction. Marijuana stays in the body for a while, you don’t have to be high to test positive. Dr. Baden should know that.
Yenta August 19th, 2014 at 8:26 am
“Maybe we should step back and let the legal system do its thing.” Exactly HOW are we preventing the legal system from “do[ing] its thing”? “…maybe the shooting was legally justifiable.” And maybe it wasn’t. You cons keep coming to the libs blogs and telling us how wrong we are, how uninformed we are. Why? Here is a blog for folks who think like you: http://www.breitbart.com/ You’ll feel right at home over there.
BanditBasheert August 19th, 2014 at 12:40 pm
Haters gotta hate – To a racist like Tater, defending a dead victim over a cop IS preventing the legal system from working.
WHAT legal system?
A prosecutor whose entire family is cops and his father was killed in the line of duty by a black man? IMPARTIAL.
Even the Bar Association has asked the Prosecutor to recuse himself but he’s got to get that cop off .. because his bias and prejudice has blinded him to actual justice.
arc99 August 19th, 2014 at 9:56 am
just like shooting another lawbreaker Cliven Bundy would have been legally justifiable?
oh no of course not, Cliven Bundy is a patriot, and white too.
BanditBasheert August 19th, 2014 at 12:38 pm
And old .. very old …
BanditBasheert August 19th, 2014 at 12:38 pm
Backing down there TaterTot?
It is not legal to gun down an unarmed man. Sorry – even if he was “walking while black” .. I know that tightens your whities, but we are still a country of laws and this cop went over the line.
As it is, his career is done – (fortunately for the community) but he took Michael Brown’s life and doesn’t matter how much whining and bleating – what he did was wrong, bad judgment and he should not get away with it.
I’m sure he is regretting not using his “drop gun” before witnesses arrived. That way he could have accused the dead man of attempting to shoot him.
Patrick August 19th, 2014 at 11:25 am
There is a difference. If the shots are in front the police office could say he was coming at him and feared for his life. Saying that he was high is basically giving the doubt that the first few shots (non head shots) didn’t stop him thus he had to shoot him in the head. The fact that there were 6 shots is actually better than 2. Six shots make it sound panic driven where as 1 or 2 shots would look more execution style. If he were shot in the back everything goes out the window as it is a high chance it is in cold blood (unless he were fleeing). There is too much speculation on both sides right now when nobody knows what really went on. Hopefully a non partial investigation can help clear things up.
BanditBasheert August 19th, 2014 at 12:33 pm
People on marijuana do NOT become violent….they take up guitar playing and singing – and they eat.
And from the trajectory of the head shots, he was either down or going down when the bullets entered his eye and the TOP of his head.
Overkill .. it’s why that word “overkill” exists.
Patrick August 20th, 2014 at 10:15 am
People who are violent will still be violent on MJ. Not saying he was violent as I have no clue. I like 99.99% of the US population had never heard of this dude before this incident. Additionally, just because MJ has a tendency to mellow some people out doesn’t mean it does for everyone. MJ does nothing at all for me. I have seen many fights from people when both were on MJ.
Define Overkill? If you are defending yourself when someone is coming after you that does not drop after a bullet do you just stop because it is overkill? Would you not fire again to make sure if they stop. What if they still don’t. Perhaps you should just stop firing so that person can continue on and kill you since it is overkill to try to stop them.
The investigation is getting picked up by the US government and is no longer being done by the local government.
Again though, I am not saying Brown was at fault, I am not saying the officer was at fault. I am just saying that people are stupid to think they know everything about what went on because there are only two people that do and one of them is now dead.
Hopefully an investigation done by an impartial source will determine what really happened. Hopefully the family gets closure
simrdown August 19th, 2014 at 12:26 pm
And you conservatives will stop at nothing to justify the killing of any black man.
BanditBasheert August 19th, 2014 at 12:32 pm
Yes TaterTot hates him anyone of color, especially if the victim is BIGGER than the Tater. Small white man syndrome. Probably old too.
dave-dr-gonzo August 19th, 2014 at 1:13 pm
Tater Teat?
Steve Shay August 19th, 2014 at 1:06 pm
Yeah, right. Meanwhile in liberal Chicago nearly 200 black men have been murdered so far in 2014. Where is the outrage? What is our president and Eric Holder doing about it?
dave-dr-gonzo August 19th, 2014 at 1:13 pm
State’s rights. Next door Indiana’s permissive gun sales. There is little Obama and Holder can do about Chicago or the underlying issues that are causing the mayhem. OTOH, it almost seems as if Illinois’ GOPers — and their fellow confederates in Illinois — are adamant about keeping law enforcement’s hands tied and doing nothing about the matter. After all, the victims are overwhelmingly blah, and nice white folk know thay don’t deserve peaceful communities.
Phil Ryan August 19th, 2014 at 1:22 pm
once again, the strawman argument from the know nothing brigade… if you had taken the time you would know (you people know nothing so I don’t know why I even say that) that this president has spoken out against black on black violence and murder in Chicago and many urban cities. You have just had your tinfoil hat on watching Fox News and going lah, lah, lah, when you don’t like something you hear. You should know these things, but of course you would rather wallow in the cess pool that is your world.
BonniefromChi August 19th, 2014 at 3:12 pm
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/eric-holder-chicago-gun-violence-atf-agents
BTW, there is plenty of outrage about the gun violence in Chicago. We are not an island, and guns are easily, and frequently, transported into Chicago from other states and from just outside city limits where Republicans rule and make sure no one’ s 2A “rights” are being infringed by limiting gun sales.
BanditBasheert August 19th, 2014 at 12:31 pm
The penalty for stealing, robbery, shoplifting is NOT execution by cop without a trial. Even if the suspect IS black (I know that rips your shorts).
Dr. Baden’s assistant ME also stated that the wounds on the arms could also have happened if the arms were raised, if the arms were positioned in a defensive position across the face and a variety of other arm positions were also possible.
Try again TaterTot.
Tammy Minton Haley August 19th, 2014 at 1:07 pm
doesn’t matter if he shoplifted some cigars…the penalty for shoplifting is not immediate execution by lone-wolf renegade cop…
dave-dr-gonzo August 19th, 2014 at 1:10 pm
On the contrary — the video demplishes the Ferguson PD “strongarm robbery” narrative. You can clearly see payment being made.
R.J. Carter August 19th, 2014 at 2:08 pm
Dave, I’ve looked at it several times, and I can’t clearly see any transaction happening. I see him getting the cigars from behind the counter, because that’s where they are, then dropping something, picking it up, and then the clerk coming out from behind the counter, hand out and empty.
raincheck August 19th, 2014 at 7:19 am
I’m not sure what to think about the video… There seems to be some confusion going on. It looks like after Mr. Brown picked up what he dropped, the clerk appears to come from behind the counter in a confrontational manner.. it could just be me.. The biggest problem with this video is… it has NOTHING to do with the fact he was gunned down!!!! Lots of questions left unanswered.. Why hasn’t anyone questioned the clerk? Why didn’t the clerk come forward? I’d heard the friend who was with him admitted that Mr. Brown had stolen some cigars.. All of these questions are MEANINGLESS!! Because it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the “Killer Cop” gunning him down!!!
Baakus August 19th, 2014 at 11:48 am
It’s important because if the footage is accurate and there wasn’t anything close to a “strong arm robbery,” then the Ferugon PD’s credibility is completely shot and we should rightly assume that everything they say is a self-serving lie.
BanditBasheert August 19th, 2014 at 12:29 pm
The Ferguson PD’s credibility has been shot since Michael Brown was gunned down in the streets and left there for hours, like a dead dog.
Swarmi August 19th, 2014 at 8:00 am
And Al Gore had sex with him too. Check the tape.
Chris Banks August 19th, 2014 at 9:27 am
This guy looks like a criminal …plus the video shows he is shop lifting,and that’s stealing …I don’t care if he is armed or not,if this guy has access to gun,I’m sure he will involve in a robbery,I’m wondering why blacks so much involve in crime,I just hate being a black guy
Khary A August 19th, 2014 at 9:30 am
wait a minute what?
tiredoftea August 19th, 2014 at 12:35 pm
Low reading comprehension, much?
dave-dr-gonzo August 19th, 2014 at 1:08 pm
Actually, the payment is pretty clearly visible. You, on the other hand, might well consider seeing an opthamologist.
ISeeApes August 19th, 2014 at 1:38 pm
When, exactly? The original video at youtube says “At 36 seconds you can clearly see the clerk clasp currency in his hands.” and anyone who actually watches it can clearly see that no such thing occurs as claimed by you libtards. You should rename your website to “Naive Gullible LibtardLand”.
dave-dr-gonzo August 19th, 2014 at 4:23 pm
Watch the whole video.
NaiveLiberalsHateTheFacts August 19th, 2014 at 2:32 pm
Oh yeah? Take it up with Brown’s partner-in-crime, Dorian Johnson.
http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/08/15/attorney-dorian-johnson-michael-brown-robbery/14118769/
Attorney: Dorian Johnson confirms he was with Brown at store robbery
FERGUSON, Mo. (AP) – The friend who was with Michael Brown when he was shot and killed by a police officer near St. Louis over the weekend is reportedly confirming that he and Brown had taken part in the theft of cigars from a convenience store that day.
Carla Akins August 19th, 2014 at 1:11 pm
Go play with your friends at Stormfront, you’re not welcome here
Phil Ryan August 19th, 2014 at 1:18 pm
There are entirely separate arguments at play here. One the justified/unjustified shooting of an unarmed black man and the people who feel the need to protest what they see as a crime and who have a perfect right to do so and three the people who play into Fox News’ narrative by taking the opportunity to loot business and steal and burn down places. It doesn’t matter that they are the minority. You think Fox News will make the distinction for its viewers who are already primed to think that all black males are thugs?
meyo August 19th, 2014 at 4:39 pm
Phil you go a long rambling way just to besmirch Fox News and really say nothing at all, Huff needs you, fit in good there.
Phil Ryan August 19th, 2014 at 5:13 pm
besmirch Fox News? Good word, besmirch. Fox News has never been a news organization. it is a propaganda far right wing machine masquerading as a news organization. to besmirch would imply that that there was anything worth besmirching…..
Tutie Munson August 19th, 2014 at 1:19 pm
He’s was clearly at the counter making a purchase.
ISeeApes August 19th, 2014 at 1:38 pm
When, exactly? The original video at youtube says “At 36 seconds you can clearly see the clerk clasp currency in his hands.” and anyone who actually watches it can clearly see that no such thing occurs.
baldeagl August 19th, 2014 at 1:59 pm
The cigars were behind the counter. In order to get them, he had to ask the clerk for them. Then he stole them, as his friend has now admitted. http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/08/15/attorney-dorian-johnson-michael-brown-robbery/14118769/ smh
Paul August 19th, 2014 at 2:51 pm
“admitted”? Is that what “reportedly” means to you?
baldeagl August 19th, 2014 at 3:35 pm
You seriously want to take issue with this?
“The friend who was with Michael Brown when he was shot and killed by a police officer near St. Louis over the weekend is reportedly confirming that he and Brown had taken part in the theft of cigars from a convenience store that day.
That word comes from the attorney for Dorian Johnson, speaking to MSNBC. Police in Ferguson had earlier announced that Brown was suspected of taking cigars from the convenience store in what was described as a “strong-arm robbery.”
How obtuse can you be? Would you prefer I used the word “confirmed” instead? Geez.
dave-dr-gonzo August 19th, 2014 at 4:22 pm
Reportedly. And did Brown knowingly take part?
baldeagl August 19th, 2014 at 4:42 pm
Seriously? Which part of “he and Brown had taken part in the theft of cigars from the convenience store” do you take issue with?
I’m wasting my time here if your reading skills are that degraded.
dave-dr-gonzo August 19th, 2014 at 4:21 pm
I believe you don’t know the meaning of the word “apparently”, bulldingle.
Phil Ryan August 19th, 2014 at 1:20 pm
and of course Mr. I see Apes, you have no agenda do you now? No you aren’t a completeracist now, are you? No, in your small little world the word agenda only has meaning when it is running up against YOUR prejudices.
baldeagl August 19th, 2014 at 1:57 pm
You DO realize that Michael Brown’s friend, Dorian Johnson, has publicly admitted that they stole the cigars, right? http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/08/15/attorney-dorian-johnson-michael-brown-robbery/14118769/ smh
crc3 August 19th, 2014 at 2:06 pm
If most of the MSM is so liberal then why hasn’t THIS video been shown or even talked about on tv? At this point I don’t know how much it really reveals or helps in the investigation or if it contradicts the first video where Brown is seen pushing the clerk…
baldeagl August 19th, 2014 at 2:09 pm
Because they still have a smidgeon of integrity left, unlike this site.
ISeeApes August 19th, 2014 at 2:12 pm
Because this site is total bullshit for naive liberal lemmings
http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/08/15/attorney-dorian-johnson-michael-brown-robbery/14118769/
Attorney: Dorian Johnson confirms he was with Brown at store robbery
FERGUSON, Mo. (AP) – The friend who was with Michael Brown when he was shot and killed by a police officer near St. Louis over the weekend is reportedly confirming that he and Brown had taken part in the theft of cigars from a convenience store that day.
crc3 August 19th, 2014 at 2:18 pm
Have to agree with you….
OldLefty August 19th, 2014 at 2:33 pm
As opposed to the sites that propagate “bullshit for naive CONSERVATIVE lemmings??
OldLefty August 19th, 2014 at 2:36 pm
I’m not conservative. I’m just not a naive white-guilt-ridden liberal.
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Of course not, Dear.
You don’t need to repeat the AP story.
Everyone knows it.
It is not germane to the shooting.
Paul August 19th, 2014 at 2:50 pm
look up the word “reportedly”.
Tom Ward August 19th, 2014 at 3:30 pm
I disagree with a lot of things on this site but it is not “total bs” nor are the people who frequent here.
That’s not to say there isn’t bs from time to time, but so what, there is bs on right-wing sites too.
R.J. Carter August 19th, 2014 at 2:06 pm
At the 36 second mark, what I see is the clerk come out from behind the counter with his hand out. I don’t see any currency being exchanged at all.
NaiveLiberalsHateTheFacts August 19th, 2014 at 2:29 pm
That’s because no currency was exchanged, at all.
http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/08/15/attorney-dorian-johnson-michael-brown-robbery/14118769/
Attorney: Dorian Johnson confirms he was with Brown at store robbery
FERGUSON, Mo. (AP) – The friend who was with Michael Brown when he was shot and killed by a police officer near St. Louis over the weekend is reportedly confirming that he and Brown had taken part in the theft of cigars from a convenience store that day.
Paul August 19th, 2014 at 2:50 pm
I think you need to look up the word “reportedly”. If there was evidence of a crime, Johnson would be charged with accessory.
wutwut August 19th, 2014 at 3:33 pm
It’s up to the store clerk to press charges, for DJ to be charged with a crime. Store clerk could feel in danger of consequences for filing charges against Johnson from the local community. I mean… they are rioting…
whatthe46 August 19th, 2014 at 4:19 pm
don’t be stupid please. if the clerk called the police you’re suggesting that there would have been a riot? that’s the problem. ignorance. your ignorance.
dave-dr-gonzo August 19th, 2014 at 4:18 pm
The payment to the clerk is actually pretty clearly visible. Take another look at the video, and this time try using your gasses there, skippy.
R.J. Carter August 19th, 2014 at 4:27 pm
Sorry, Dave. I’ve tried my flatulence (gasses) and my bifocals (glasses), and there are no dead presidents or plastic cards going back and forth. The cashier did not get paid and is coming around the corner because of that. This video feeds cleanly into the other video, shot from another angle, where the clerk gets pushed.
Pete August 19th, 2014 at 9:19 pm
look at 32 seconds and pause and see the clerk clearly grab money from counter.
R.J. Carter August 20th, 2014 at 12:05 pm
Nope, doesn’t happen.
Brown approaches the counter with nothing in his hands.
He has things in his hands after he reaches across the counter — was he keeping his cash over there?
Brown then puts those things back on the counter, and that is what the clerk scoops up at the 32 second mark, when Brown begins walking away.
Pete August 19th, 2014 at 9:19 pm
look at 32 seconds and pause and see the clerk clearly grab money from counter.
Carla Akins August 19th, 2014 at 2:11 pm
Look, you’ve been warned. You can disagree in a civil manner or leave.
ISeeApes August 19th, 2014 at 2:13 pm
Post the truth and quit lying, you are either naive or a disingenuous propagandist.
http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/08/15/attorney-dorian-johnson-michael-brown-robbery/14118769/
Attorney: Dorian Johnson confirms he was with Brown at store robbery
FERGUSON, Mo. (AP) – The friend who was with Michael Brown when he was shot and killed by a police officer near St. Louis over the weekend is reportedly confirming that he and Brown had taken part in the theft of cigars from a convenience store that day.
Carla Akins August 19th, 2014 at 3:18 pm
And you’re a racist ass.
dave-dr-gonzo August 19th, 2014 at 4:20 pm
Now Carla, by comparing that person to a racist ass, you insult garden variety racist asses… 😉
ISeeApes August 19th, 2014 at 2:12 pm
This site is horse shit propaganda for naive white-guilt libtards.
Read the facts, dumbasses:
http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/08/15/attorney-dorian-johnson-michael-brown-robbery/14118769/
Attorney: Dorian Johnson confirms he was with Brown at store robbery
FERGUSON, Mo. (AP) – The friend who was with Michael Brown when he was shot and killed by a police officer near St. Louis over the weekend is reportedly confirming that he and Brown had taken part in the theft of cigars from a convenience store that day.
Paul August 19th, 2014 at 2:50 pm
“reportedly.”
Carla Akins August 19th, 2014 at 2:54 pm
Stop posting “reportedly” on each comment and Apes cannot reply – he disappeared.
Paul August 19th, 2014 at 3:07 pm
*shrug* Sorry. I just wanted to make sure that everybody who posted that link knew that it doesn’t actually say what they think it says.
Carla Akins August 19th, 2014 at 3:17 pm
I apologize, I should have worded that nicer.
Paul August 19th, 2014 at 3:13 pm
Also, for the record, I posted “reportedly” exactly once, because Disqus does not allow you to post the exact same comment twice in one thread. I DID post several variations of my point, which I maintain is a valid one.. If you think I’ve done something wrong, perhaps you should reevaluate your criteria for moderation because if one jackass and his sockpuppets can get away with posting the same BS link over and over again, I should be able to post a rebuttal each and every time without being scolded.
Carla Akins August 19th, 2014 at 3:16 pm
No it’s was driving me crazy. Most readers review more than just their comments, they look at the entire thread. You posted some variation of the same thing 5 times.
mea_mark August 19th, 2014 at 3:23 pm
Did you get the other account with same ip
Carla Akins August 19th, 2014 at 3:31 pm
Yep.
raincheck August 21st, 2014 at 9:07 am
are these people setting up different accounts?
mea_mark August 21st, 2014 at 12:05 pm
Some people, mostly trolls, have more than one account, some have many accounts with different names and email accounts. Some like to make up new accounts days after being banned, some just like to talk to themselves and up vote their own comments.
raincheck August 21st, 2014 at 12:55 pm
Wow no kidding!… I suppose it could give the impression that more people think a particular way… making something seem more popular than it is in reality. I had a feeling things like that went on, but didn’t want to ask… I also have a feeling that some people are paid to sit and post all day, skewing the subject to, again make something look more popular than it is… have you ever heard of something like this? Or am I just paranoid? lol
mea_mark August 21st, 2014 at 1:37 pm
Russia is certainly paying trolls. Koch brothers, more than likely, they are probably just a lot better at hiding it.
R.J. Carter August 25th, 2014 at 10:09 am
You wouldn’t believe the bonus I got when they found out I was a moderator here!
raincheck August 22nd, 2014 at 2:39 pm
Wow…no kidding
mea_mark August 22nd, 2014 at 3:08 pm
When you have an empty life …
SugarShane August 19th, 2014 at 2:24 pm
“Perhaps it was wrong for Brown to shove the employee”, no that would be illegal, not ‘perhaps it was wrong’. It’s called assault, look it up.
whatthe46 August 19th, 2014 at 4:17 pm
he didn’t put his hands on the clerk first. not assault.
dave-dr-gonzo August 19th, 2014 at 4:17 pm
It’s clear that the clerk shoved first. Wonder why the Ferguson PD has still not yet interviewed the store witnesses. Could it be that their little “Brown shoplifted” scenario will be completely destroyed, and the clerk could be charged with assault?
R.J. Carter August 19th, 2014 at 4:30 pm
That sounds too much like a hopeful narrative. This video and the other clearly shows a non-paid clerk coming from behind the counter for his money, trying to stop a shoplifter, and then being pushed away — elevating shoplifting to assault.
Doug Dittmer August 19th, 2014 at 2:38 pm
Or ….. we could all stop speculating on what happened and maybe wait for the witnesses to testify. Seems half the people are convinced Brown was some kind of thug and the other half wants the cop arrested and sent to prison before we even have the facts. One of them is guilty because he’s black. The other guy is guilty because he’s a white cop. The truth is likely neither of the above.
Pistol-Packing August 19th, 2014 at 2:39 pm
QUESTION ??? If this is such a good angle, why is it edited to never show him take any money out of his pocket or wallet to actually “PAY”
dave-dr-gonzo August 19th, 2014 at 4:15 pm
The payment to the clerk is actually pretty clearly visible. You need an opthamologist, sparky.
John Grey August 19th, 2014 at 5:21 pm
He paid the clerk by pushing him down. Not real payment.
Pistol-Packing August 19th, 2014 at 5:25 pm
My eyes may be bad, but they are not that bad. I dont see it. What I see is the clerk taking back what Mike brown put back on the counter at the 24 second mark. He drops stuff on the floor, picks it up, and walks out. and the clerk clearly comes out right from behind the counter with his hand out for something…
If you see something different, then maybe we both should go to the eye doctor. Also, Where is the video footage of him walking up to the counter and pulling money from his pocket?? Why is that edited out?? I think whoever made this claim, needs to go back to the drawing board.
Pistol-Packing August 20th, 2014 at 10:04 am
I didn’t think my eyes were so bad….
“A lawyer for Mr. Johnson said that his client was interviewed by the F.B.I. and the St. Louis County police last week for nearly four hours. In that interview, Mr. Johnson admitted that he and Mr. Brown had stolen cigarillos from the store, said the lawyer, Freeman R. Bosley Jr.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/20/us/shooting-accounts-differ-as-holder-schedules-visit.html?ref=us&_r=0
OldLefty August 19th, 2014 at 2:41 pm
I can’t imagine if ANY kid in my fairly affluent white suburb had been shot and killed by the police after behaving in the same way.
The parents here are apoplectic if their kid doesn’t get the teacher they wanted or makes the JV team instead of the varsity team.
OldLefty August 19th, 2014 at 2:49 pm
When you get an alert, while typing, saying that “the comment you are responding to has been removed by the moderator”…..
Why???
Carla Akins August 19th, 2014 at 2:56 pm
Your comment hasn’t been removed, most likely I deleted the comment you were replying to – refresh the page and your comment should be there. Let me know if you run into further trouble.
OldLefty August 19th, 2014 at 3:31 pm
Not interested in MY comment, just curious about the deleted one.
Is it deleted even as one is replying to it??
mea_mark August 19th, 2014 at 3:40 pm
Yes, If we hit the delete button while someone is replying, it goes away and the reply does too unfortunately.
whatthe46 August 19th, 2014 at 4:16 pm
when i find that happening, just go to the top of the page and repost it but address it to the person i was attempting to respond to.
OldLefty August 19th, 2014 at 5:40 pm
OK.
That makes sense.
Thanks.
Paul August 19th, 2014 at 2:50 pm
I think you need to look up the word “reportedly”.
Chevan Wilson August 19th, 2014 at 2:58 pm
Liberals.. pffft.
dave-dr-gonzo August 19th, 2014 at 4:15 pm
Real patriotic avatar you’ve got there, Skippy. Not.
Don Alex August 19th, 2014 at 8:19 pm
Hmm, Skippy, Sparky … do you ever make a comment without using silly nicknames, Gabby?
dave-dr-gonzo August 19th, 2014 at 11:23 pm
Yes, Spanky.
Diane Rickman Carder August 20th, 2014 at 10:29 am
real idiot you are davy
raincheck August 21st, 2014 at 8:32 am
pffft? Did you spring an air leak?
Wendi Speigle August 19th, 2014 at 4:02 pm
Weather he stole them or paid for them, does not constitute being killed for it.
Penny August 19th, 2014 at 6:23 pm
One thing does not seem to have anything to do with the other. Except to show either Michael Brown was a thief and Bully and victim in the after fact or just a victim. Obviously something went very wrong in Ferguson. Does anyone even know why the police were after Brown and his friend?? Cause if it wasn’t this and that was said early on that the officer didn’t know about this, but I wonder did Michael Brown when confronted by the officer decided to act like he did with this clerk in the store???
Diane Rickman Carder August 20th, 2014 at 10:28 am
The officer told Johnson and brown to get out of the middle of the street because Brown and johnson were obstructing traffic. He got a call about that time about the robbery. They thought he was stopping them for that and reacted by punching the officer repeatedly and going after his gun
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 1:56 pm
In your scenario you forgot to say that Brown unsuccessfully got the gun and started to run away when Officer Wilson recovered and started firing. Officer Wilson decided to shoot at an unarmed person while they were fleeing. Sorry we don’t allow cops to arbitrarily decide who they can kill.
Wendi Speigle August 20th, 2014 at 6:18 pm
Well, I wonder how an OVER 6 foot tall man gets shot in the head TWICE. He must have already been on his knees, the officer has really really bad aim, or he WANTED him killed. seems fishy to me.
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 1:49 pm
That’s a good observation. Either Officer Wilson was aiming for a head shot or Brown’s head was already at the same level of the gun as Officer Wilson pulled the trigger. Naturally and properly a person firing a gun will have their arms straight out with legs apart for stability. At the natural firing position this would reasonable leave a person 6 ft. tall to get shot in the head if the head was somehow lowered. A tall man kneeling would position their head around shoulder level.
Cause_I_Can August 19th, 2014 at 8:02 pm
It showed brown was aggressive he shoved that clerk like it was nothing. It supports the officers case brown came after him. probably thinking the cop was going to arrest him after stealing. Whats the motive for the cop randomly shooting the kid? Hey theres a black kid I should shoot him…unlikely
Wendi Speigle August 20th, 2014 at 6:18 pm
So why was he shot in the HEAD TWICE.? he was over 6 foot tall, how does that happen…oh, maybe he was on his knees?
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 1:38 pm
Officer Wilson killed Mike Brown because he could not imagine some black kids disobeying his orders or escaping his captivity so he shot him to death.
Cause_I_Can August 25th, 2014 at 6:46 pm
Im willing to bet you dont know him personally and are only commenting out of misplaced anger over a situation you did not witness and are only angry because everyone else is angry and everyone else is angry because of misplaced anger.
Diane Rickman Carder August 20th, 2014 at 10:25 am
that is true and he was not killed for it
Wendi Speigle August 20th, 2014 at 6:19 pm
well, what WAS he killed for? and in the head, twice…a 6 foot man….hmmmmm. makes you wonder.
Kirk Hollums August 19th, 2014 at 4:10 pm
looks like he just reached in a grabbed a handful..I never seen him hand cash over at all…nice try….
dave-dr-gonzo August 19th, 2014 at 4:14 pm
The payment to the clerk is actually pretty clearly visible. You need an opthamologist, sparky.
R.J. Carter August 19th, 2014 at 4:27 pm
I’m thinking the prescription on your own specs has run out. I think you’re seeing things that aren’t there.
Silly Guy August 19th, 2014 at 5:22 pm
Give us a time on your video where the payment is clearly visible. I never saw Brown reach into his pocket for a wallet or money, I did not see any money in his hands behind his back when he approached the counter and his hands were empty when he entered the store according to the other video.
And even in your blog post, you state that “While it is difficult to be 100% certain…”
So give us a time, sparky.
Don Alex August 19th, 2014 at 8:17 pm
I think you need to lay off the drugs (especially at your age), because if you think payment is clearly visible in this, you are hallucinating, sparky.
Diane Rickman Carder August 20th, 2014 at 10:24 am
visible??? you are the one who needs an opthamologist. what do u think the store owner was chasing him down for Davy????
The Correctness August 19th, 2014 at 4:21 pm
HAHAHA…this article made me actually LOL
AgentBrittany August 19th, 2014 at 5:12 pm
This is a joke, right? This has to be a joke.
John Grey August 19th, 2014 at 5:20 pm
Reached in and grabbed cigars from clerk, so clerk comes around the side.
yea right August 19th, 2014 at 6:03 pm
This shows nothing actually….people believe everything on the Internet
Big Joe Burke August 19th, 2014 at 6:10 pm
For all the folks suggesting it shows nothing, I agree wholeheartedly. It shows absolutely nothing worth being shot over. Paid for or not the issue isn’t any clearer than the fact that at no point in this video did this young man do anything that deserved an execution.
nocdib August 19th, 2014 at 6:57 pm
He wasn’t shot for STEALING cigars, he was shot for wrestling an officer for his gun and then for charging at him while the gun was drawn.
Not for nothing, Mike Brown’s accomplice, Dorrian, and his lawyer already admitted that they stole from the store so stop reaching for non-existent straws.
whatthe46 August 19th, 2014 at 7:11 pm
he wasn’t shot for wrestling with an officer either. and what ever happened in the store had nothing to do with this murder.
phantasm76 August 19th, 2014 at 7:54 pm
Then what was he shot for dumbass ? Sorry, but no officer in their right mind would shoot someone just for being black…get your head out of your ass already and stop pretending this “kid” was a choir boy
whatthe46 August 19th, 2014 at 8:55 pm
dumbass? LOL!!! you poor pathetic little man. he was arrested for being black. 1/2 the cops on the force are not in their right minds and there have been 1000’s of young black males murdered because of their race by cops. just because you don’t want to accept that fact doesn’t make it go away. a white guy was shooting at the police and firefighters with an AK, yet they didn’t do anything other than arrest him. white boys are still considered choir boys when they attend universities and rape young white girls. but, that doesn’t bother you. get a grip. LOL dumbass, how original.
Diane Rickman Carder August 20th, 2014 at 10:22 am
you are dumb as dirt
Chanel August 20th, 2014 at 12:47 pm
There are more young black males murdered by other young black males. So someone needs to get a grip on why that is going on. Maybe black males should step up and join the force. I accept the fact that there is prejudice… I also accept the fact that it is in every race. Affirmative action… if a black person and a white person make the same exact grade on a test for a promotion guess who they will promote.. yea the black person. They will promote a minority over a white person because that is affirmative action. Talk about prejudice. It’s everywhere. It’s in every race. Racists everywhere and until every race can fix it, racism will continue forever… it’s how you handle it that matters. This looting and rioting is not helping the cause out at all. And be more mature about this debate then calling people names.
MindFire August 21st, 2014 at 10:13 am
Please brush up on your history. Because of the U.S. history of legalized oppression, African Americans have been forced to play serious catch up while Whites have thrived as a direct result of these wrong doings. Affirmative Action actually benefits White women more than anyone else. “Legacy” at some of the U.S’. finest Universities which gives preference to applicants based on their families history of attendance is Affirmative Action and situations similar to that are a part of White American life. African Americans are excluded from these avenues and suffer because of it.
rr184188 August 22nd, 2014 at 8:32 am
In addition to MindFire’s response, you may also want to look at statistics on those jobs that you reference. White males are still making more than their Black counterparts with the same qualifications in the same jobs. Affirmative action only takes us so far…racism still exists and still holds minority groups down. White males are still the ones that have the upper hand in almost every single aspect of American life.
skohayes August 19th, 2014 at 9:21 pm
The officer did not know he robbed the store- he stopped him for walking in the middle of the street.
Do police in your neck of the woods kill people for walking down the middle of the street?
Diane Rickman Carder August 20th, 2014 at 10:22 am
no they do not, but mike brown and johnson knew they robbed that store and that is what they thought they were being stopped for–
raincheck August 21st, 2014 at 7:39 am
Mind reader?
Chanel August 20th, 2014 at 12:42 pm
Have you not read anything else but the man walking down the street being told to get out? There is so much more to this case. Do some research.
phantasm76 August 21st, 2014 at 6:55 am
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08/18/cnn-now-reporting-potential-bombshell-in-ferguson-shooting-regarding-what-alleged-friend-of-officer-darren-wilson-told-theblazes-dana-loesch-on-air/ actually according to CNN reporting he was not stopped for merely walking in the street but after the officer got a call and was driving a way now how dumb do you feel ?
sarcasatire August 20th, 2014 at 12:18 am
The autopsy showed no sign of a struggle and there was a bullet that went from back to front, which meant Mike brown was turned away.
And are we really to believe that someone would reach through a car window (on the left side), to try to snatch a gun from the officer’s RIGHT hip. Like, really? Like he was leaning in, reaching across the officers body, an able bodied man, fighting for his weapon, yet there be no sign of struggle? On either of them. They released pics of Zimmerman’s bruises the same day. An intense struggle for a weapon, with big, bad Mike brown of the strong armed robbery, through a glass and metal door, and the police officer had not a scratch on him? Sound plausible?
Diane Rickman Carder August 20th, 2014 at 10:20 am
wrong—no bullet from back to front, all shots were from the front. first in the arm to wound but Brown kept coming. He got himself killed. The officer had a blown orbit!!!
raincheck August 21st, 2014 at 6:22 am
Wrong- He had one wound (graze) that could have come from the front OR the back. As far as the Officer having a “blown orbit!!” You never see the Officer feel around for damage to his eye, which would seem natural to me.. there is NO “proof” Mr.Brown “kept coming” It doesn’t make any sense, that a person would “charge” into the direction of where the bullets were coming from. Some witnesses claim that the Officer was chasing Mr. Brown (while shooting at him) AND that Mr Brown was running from the Officer… With all of the ms-information/distractions/withholding info comming from the FPD. Have you seen the actual x-ray of the “blown orbit”? If people want to bring in video’s that REALLY ARE
raincheck August 21st, 2014 at 6:57 am
“first in the arm to wound but Brown kept coming”? WTF?… You’re actually saying, the Officer made an attempt to wound Mr Brown, but because Mr Brown kept coming.. the Officer had no choice… Mr Brown FORCED the Officer to kill him?…You are more full of SH*T than a Christmas Turkey!!!
phantasm76 August 21st, 2014 at 7:00 am
Like really ? I have to do your homework for you ? I guess officer wilson was so distraught after shooting this “kid” for no reason he smashed his own face inhttp://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2014/08/breaking-michael-broke-cops-face-video-breaking-report-officer-darren-wilson-suffered-orbital-blowout-fracture-to-eye-socket-during-mike-brown-attack-2896040.html
phantasm76 August 21st, 2014 at 7:42 am
http://madworldnews.com/doctor-mike-browns-autopsy-fraud/
nocdib August 22nd, 2014 at 8:08 pm
Michael Baden, the doctor hired by the family to do the autopsy, said that his results couldn’t conclude whether or not there was a struggle. Get your facts straight.
wmj August 20th, 2014 at 2:45 pm
Quit pretending that this officer is a choir boy!!!
phantasm76 August 20th, 2014 at 9:30 pm
Never said he was jackass, but you don’t see social pics of the officer throwing up gang signs.
Carla Akins August 20th, 2014 at 9:35 pm
You have pictures of Michael Brown throwing gang signs?
phantasm76 August 21st, 2014 at 6:46 am
Not on me personally but I have seen them online
phantasm76 August 21st, 2014 at 7:02 am
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-michael-brown-was-a-local-gangster-seen-flashing-gang-signs/
Carla Akins August 21st, 2014 at 7:44 am
Seriously, that’s all the images for a young black man that lives in the hood? In 6 pictures provided showing his hand(s) (in a time where the captured image reigns supreme) I see two that could be called a gang sign. In another 2 he/they are simply flipping off the camera – and no non-gang related person ever does that. Sheesh. And I’m certain there are no images of Ofc. Wilson in his youth or during his down time that would be considered inappropriate. It’s nothing more than a campaign to smear the victim. Here are gang signs: http://northtownmud.org/docs/IPTM_Basic_Street_Gangs_Hand_Signs1.pdf
phantasm76 August 21st, 2014 at 8:52 am
Show me some of officer wilson then, and I am not gang related and I have pics and not one of them in my youth show me giving the finger to anyone…grasping at straws are we ? You must suffer from white guilt and cant accept the possibility that the officers story is true. Go there and help with the “protests” if you are so positive he is guilty…lets see how they welcome you with open arms
raincheck August 21st, 2014 at 8:21 am
I didn’t see any photo’s of the Officer “throwing up gang signs” either…. Just a video of him pacing around a dead (UN-armed) black man
phantasm76 August 21st, 2014 at 8:47 am
I will even look past the situation where supposedly the officer was beaten…you go ahead and kill someone and see how your demeanor is, highly doubt it will be calm
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 12:11 pm
Officer Wilson seemed to have kill Brown because Officer Wilson was not prepared, trained sufficiently, or equipped to handle asking a pair of black men to move out of the streets. If the officer felt in danger at anytime, he also failed to wait for backup or call into dispatch when engaging the suspects. This may be revealed in the trial but if not Officer Wilson has a lot of explaining to do. In every angle, every instance, and every picture based on just the facts, Officer Wilson failed at his duties in this instance and the actions that he took ended the life of Mike Brown.
Furthermore, the actions of the FPD afterwards was to cover up and spin the circumstance of the events in favor of their fellow officer. Only after persistence community out cry and protest have the FPD made any attempts to bring forth any official statement as to why an officer had to kill a young black man in broad daylight in the middle of the streets. Officer Wilson can claim to fear for his life and can try to justify his actions, but he still ultimately decided to end a person’s life at that moment and the Brown family can be adding to parents who had their kid killed by cops.
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 1:25 pm
Officer Wilson killed Mike Brown because he could not imagine some citizen from disobey his orders or escaping his captivity so he shot him to death.
phantasm76 September 10th, 2014 at 12:34 am
You just went full retard with that comment
Diane Rickman Carder August 20th, 2014 at 10:19 am
self defense
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 1:26 pm
It cease being self defense when the person is running away while you are aiming a gun at the fleeing suspect.
MindFire August 20th, 2014 at 12:13 am
Who the hell charges at a gun toting cop after they have been shooting? Really???
Diane Rickman Carder August 20th, 2014 at 10:18 am
an idiot thug who got shot
Anomaly 100 August 20th, 2014 at 10:35 am
Our police officers are not supposed to shoot people down because of how they perceive him to be. They are supposed to use deadly action only if necessary. Stun guns and tazers are an actual thing.
Chanel August 20th, 2014 at 12:38 pm
Tazers kill people too.
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 11:38 am
I’d rather take a taser in the arm than a bullet, so please stop trying to equate the two as equal. One is supposedly non-lethal and the other is lethal. Can you decide which one is which? If not your just to stupid to even talk to.
Diane Rickman Carder August 25th, 2014 at 5:19 pm
no they are not suppose to shoot them unless it is self defense and it was. Tasars are not always realistic
Anomaly 100 August 25th, 2014 at 5:34 pm
Show me how it was self-defense. I’ll wait right here. Thanks!
Cause_I_Can August 19th, 2014 at 8:00 pm
The robbery shows he was aggressive, it shows he was willing to push around random people so it only helps the officers case for brown coming after him.
Dave VonSmith August 19th, 2014 at 7:49 pm
Thank you for sharing this info!!!
Cause_I_Can August 19th, 2014 at 7:59 pm
Uh what? The guy with him said they had stolen some and this video is of him at the counter…a lot of robberies are at the front of the store. Whoever wrote this is trying to piece together whatever they can
Charlie Thickwithit August 19th, 2014 at 11:05 pm
Sorry but that’s not the same guy. Just because they’re both black with dredlocs doesn’t mean they look alike.
Randy L August 19th, 2014 at 11:28 pm
A lawyer for Mr. Johnson said that his client was interviewed by the F.B.I. and the St. Louis County police last week for nearly four hours. In that interview, Mr. Johnson admitted that he an…d Mr. Brown had stolen cigarillos from the store, said the lawyer, Freeman R. Bosley Jr.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/20/us/shooting-accounts-differ-as-holder-schedules-visit.html?ref=us
dave-dr-gonzo August 19th, 2014 at 11:59 pm
The video completely undermines that claim. The way Bosley frames the report, it would not surprise me if the Ferguson cops pressured Johnson into a confession. I wouldn’t lend any credibility to Johnson’s “confession”.
Anomaly 100 August 20th, 2014 at 9:09 am
After the Central Park rapists were found out years later to be innocent, I don’t trust confessions anymore and especially from Ferguson.
Diane Rickman Carder August 20th, 2014 at 10:17 am
johnson and brown both had a record. wise up
Diane Rickman Carder August 20th, 2014 at 10:15 am
this video is a OS it does nit undermine anything. It proves he stole.
Diane Rickman Carder August 20th, 2014 at 10:14 am
yes that is just it.
Chris GrindinfaGreatness Gatew August 20th, 2014 at 4:24 am
Besides all of this fuckery, lets give a handclap for Chicagos Jackie Robinson West for having the best record for the US in the LLWS. Amen to that
AlexZane August 20th, 2014 at 9:17 am
wow did the article make me laugh.. really??? someone actually thinks he paid for them, point out the money please. Also is the clerk confronting him because he didnt get his change. Darwin award for this author.. ding ding ding we have a winner.
Always Right August 20th, 2014 at 11:17 am
Good point, “show me the money!”
AlexZane August 20th, 2014 at 9:19 am
i bet the woman with the kid called the cops.. humm black woman standing there because SHE SAW AND HEARD THE WHOLE THING.. how dos this idiot get to publish on the internet.
Glen Saunders August 20th, 2014 at 9:48 am
BS……The other tape clearly shows him leaving without paying. Also shows him assaulting the clerk or was that a figment of my imagination? The looney left strikes again….
Diane Rickman Carder August 20th, 2014 at 10:12 am
OH COME ON!!!!!!! This tape does not exonerate Brown in anyway shape or form. It only confirms he was a thug a big bully who stole and strong armed the store owner. You sure are desperate to make him look innocent but that is not the case
youngfunds August 20th, 2014 at 12:25 pm
So they had the right to shoot him 6 times?
Josh August 20th, 2014 at 10:12 am
What about the fact that his friend openly admitted that Michael stole the cigars? You don’t need to watch a video for that one, check sources and facts before you write bs articles. I’m not trying to say the shooting is or is not justified, just fact check yourself beforehand.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/ferguson-police-name-michael-brown
Chris Bartlett August 20th, 2014 at 10:43 pm
it is funny how someone will create their own news to fit their own story. I saw no money in the video, but maybe he put it on his account. also he didn’t get a cigar he got the whole pack, not counting what he handed his bubby in the beginning. I don’t think a lot of people actually watch the videos but read opinions of others and go off that, like the store owner saying he didn’t steal them, cant find that anywhere but above.
crc3 August 20th, 2014 at 10:28 am
Dear Alan:
Why is this video “trending” when the reality is it shows NOTHING than vindicates Brown? Also…explain why none of the MSM has even talked about or shown the video. Could it be that there is nothing to see? I think so…
Anomaly 100 August 20th, 2014 at 10:37 am
Why are you talking to Alan?;-)
He did not post this.
crc3 August 20th, 2014 at 11:16 am
Because Alan is the editor and this is his web site? 🙂
Anomaly 100 August 20th, 2014 at 11:34 am
There are 277 comments here. I just thought I’d point that out. I doubt he has the time to read comments which pertain to the author of the site it was syndicated from:-)
Have a great day, Crc3!
crc3 August 20th, 2014 at 1:19 pm
You also Anomaly 100!! 🙂
Guest August 20th, 2014 at 1:31 pm
Really?
Brock Harris August 20th, 2014 at 10:29 am
Everything in the video posted above contradicts the claims made in the article. Author needs his eyes checked.
R.J. Carter August 20th, 2014 at 12:31 pm
You mean you actually watched the video? You weren’t supposed to do that!
Always Right August 20th, 2014 at 11:00 am
A few facts overlooked.
1. It wasn’t a pack of cigars, it was a $48.99 carton
2. His accomplice admitted he stole the cigars
3. He “DID” strong arm the store owner
4. He wasn’t stopped for robbing the cigars; allegedly
5. Officer Darren Wilson suffered facial fractures during his confrontation with Michael Brown.
It appears the victim went from one violent encounter to another.
If they’re going to report the incident, then please report all the facts. A jury will decide not a mob based on the evidence presented.
Kevin Ryan August 20th, 2014 at 1:30 pm
Thank you, Always Right! The article got a few points wrong and omitted others, didn’t it? Welcome to the Spin Zone.
Kishona Woodfork August 20th, 2014 at 5:00 pm
Review your facts and try again! Seriously! The store owner admitted brown steal anything also there’s a video of Wilson standing over browns body perfectly fine after he murdered him! Nothing was wrong with his face…FPD is trying to make a cover up and is doing a great job at failing! 🙂
TYRONE BIGGUMS August 20th, 2014 at 6:09 pm
his friend admitted that they were involved in the robbery… so why will his friend lie? we all over here talking like we were there and saw him raise his hands when even in the original video a by stander could be heard saying that he saw the whole thing happen and brown infact did get into an altercation with the cop. and tried to run. even though that doesn’t justify his killing a dead black man is still a dead black man regardless of the color pulling the trigger. what happened to the 600 black little kids that were killed in chicago last year? all they simply got was an r.i.p shirt and no riots. but once a o non white kills one of us its a problem. JAMES J BROADNAX killed 2 white guys coming from christian choir practice. in cold blood and what was heard about it? nothing.. if white people rioted every time one of us killed them this country will be disorderly. we might want to start at home and start trying to fix our own selves. if you fighting for your civil liberties by looting stores you definitely have the whole thing backwards.
denisel10 August 20th, 2014 at 7:02 pm
I think the point a lot of people miss is that normally when a black person kills another black person and definitely if they kill a white person there is no question that justice will be served and if it isn’t its definitely not due to any bias or special treatment towards the black person, so this is the main reason blacks tend to protest when its the other way around. Historically whites have killed blacks and gotten away with it, so the protest is not just about the crime itself, its about justice for the crime.
Penny August 20th, 2014 at 6:25 pm
I wonder if anyone truly knows the facts completely. Always two sides to the story. What did come across in that video is that Michael Brown was a bit physical with the clerk, you cannot deny that. The police shooting him, IDK was not there but do feel that there is excess to often and so this needs to be investigated, and I hope either way the truth comes out. Were you in the store since you seem so sure of what transpired???? Just curious,not being sarcastic!
Jason Neal August 21st, 2014 at 5:26 pm
Lol. This made me laugh. 2 things about your “Facts”. 1. There isn’t a video of Wilson standing over the body. You are referring to the video of the second officer to show up after Wilson left. This video was used to encourage death threats against the second officer prior to the release of Wilson’s name. 2. The store owner never said any such thing. This “article” *implies* as much but fails miserably. The owner said that none of the employees called 911. That’s it. The MANAGER who was shoved by Brown DID file a police report which you can read here: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/ferguson-police-report
Your facts are so well founded Sherlock.
pacavelli August 22nd, 2014 at 1:19 pm
Show me proof for these “facial fractures”.. Give me some pictures, after a crime, pictures are taken on any injuries.. dont ever mention this again until you can back it up.
prove his “accomplice” admitted to anything.
You have two assignments. I’m waiting.
R.J. Carter August 22nd, 2014 at 1:36 pm
–Source: MSNBC
Second assignment completed.
R.J. Carter August 30th, 2014 at 6:46 pm
And I didn’t even get a grade.
GrannyBug August 30th, 2014 at 6:08 pm
Perhaps you believe you are “entitled” to be catered to. I am so sick of the entitlement mentality of the last few generations. No one owes you a darn thing. If you want to see the facts and the evidence, find it yourself! I have read the online autopsy and online police report by looking them up myself. Why don’t you do the same? The autopsy is pretty telling. Brown’s friend told everyone the officer shot him in the back. Guess what? No shots in the back in the autopsy. This tells me that Dorian is NOT a reliable source of information. The police report is pretty lengthy and they do use big words, … I hope you are up to it.
TKLBC August 20th, 2014 at 11:31 am
Yes, this is a typical transaction. I can’t tell you how many times I have had to reach over the counter to get my stuff and pay, and then when I try to leave the store only to have the clerk come out to thank me so I have to playfully grab him by his collar and push him up against a store display before I leave. Those clerks can be jokesters.
Kevin Ryan August 20th, 2014 at 1:29 pm
This video proves nothing except the fact that Brown was at the clerk’s counter for approximately 30 seconds. It shows us nothing of what happened before, and most importantly after. Why wasn’t a longer video clip provided?
Paulette Wilson August 20th, 2014 at 2:16 pm
Please my people don’t indulge yourself in this stupid conversation let them talk among themself because they are not intelligent enough for a response
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Purposedrivenlife Lewis August 20th, 2014 at 6:41 pm
Amen its irrelevant, because as George Zimmerman lied so will they God will have the final say believe that vengeance is mine saith the Lord
bruceclark August 20th, 2014 at 2:49 pm
This article is irrelevant. The relevant fact is that a customer called 911 claiming a strong arm robbery had occurred. The store owner never denied that. The police were responding to the call for help and claim of robbery. That’s all that is relevant. The video MIGHT show him paying or might not. But it certainly DOES show him getting violent with the clerk. So there is absolutely nothing about this video or the police claims surrounding this incident that is misleading or racism. The only thing misleading and racist is this article
Dez August 20th, 2014 at 6:40 pm
Of course this is racism. Only a complete idiot would ignore the systematic killings of unarmed black men. Look what happened here. People automatically assume black men are guilty and deserve to be gunned down for jaywalking and stealing cigs. If this was the other way around and this was a white man, the officer would have been arrested already. Plus the officer didn’t know Brown was a suspect in a robbery. The officer was the one trained to handle citizens and failed to do so by killing Brown instead of detaining him.
GrannyBug August 30th, 2014 at 6:01 pm
A young white boy was recently killed by a black officer and all we are hearing is crickets …. chirp, chirp, chirp …. Surprise, surprise. Be careful what you wish for.
Dez September 2nd, 2014 at 5:09 pm
Is it systematic killings of white kids by black cops? Nope then you don’t have a point. Once it is then get back to me.
R.J. Carter September 2nd, 2014 at 5:17 pm
The crucial thing that makes something “systematic” is media coverage.
Torian Richardson August 20th, 2014 at 10:24 pm
The one thing that would be relevant is if it is true that the cops only obtained the video after Mike was dead. That would be in direct conflict of the polices statements of the officers excuse for confronting Mike the second time. This also decreds the polices trustworthiness.
Jason Neal August 21st, 2014 at 5:21 pm
“Confronting Mike the second time.” Wtf? Are you making up your own news? Mike was confronted once and shot at the same time. He was never stopped regarding the burglary. The fact that he robbed the place in the first place only throws the community claims that “He was a quiet, gentle giant that never hurt anyone” was just BS.
Torian Richardson August 21st, 2014 at 5:31 pm
Really, because the “official” police statement says that the initial confrontation between the policeman and Mike was about him walking in the road. Apparently while driving off, the police officer heard of a robbery and Mike fit the description. This would now count as the second encounter. You are saying he was never stopped regarding the burglary, maybe you need to read the officers side of the story again.
“he fact that he robbed the place in the first place only throws the community claims that “He was a quiet, gentle giant that never hurt anyone” was just BS.”. I am not convinced that he did rob the store. Apparently, neither the store clerk or any store employee called to report a robbery. Do you know a store employee who does not call the police after being “strong arm robbed”? There are too many things that don’t add up. I will wait until the trial for all the facts to show up and kill the rumors and misinformation.
Jason Neal August 21st, 2014 at 7:10 pm
Torian, I’m done with you. The fact that you don’t even know what happened regarding Mike Brown’s shooting leaves me no faith that you’re capable of reading the evidence presented to you. You don’t look at facts, you don’t read proof provided for you (since you’re too lazy to get it yourself), and you rely on hear-say to formulate an opinion. You give me little hope for the American people has a whole.
I’m “Outie”.
Torian Richardson August 21st, 2014 at 7:17 pm
“Torian, I’m done with you. “.. as you spend the next paragraph speaking of evidence and facts yet providing no counter argument against anything I said. Were you at the shooting? It seems to me that everything you are saying is something you HEARD or READ. I was repeating the Police Chief verified statement from the officer himself. But as typical, because you can’t actually debate anything I said, you are “outie” which is fine with me. I never asked you to be in OUR conversation in the first place.
Michael "Mk" Simpson Jr August 21st, 2014 at 2:27 am
Thank you. I needed a good laugh and you’re very entertaining. I’m showing this to my white neighbor right now and she is basically falling out of the chair with laughter.
Richard August 20th, 2014 at 4:44 pm
So according to the article, it’s OK for me to go around and start shoving people?
Dez August 20th, 2014 at 6:35 pm
According to you it’s okay to shoot and kill an unarmed black teen for stealing and jaywalking.
The Correctness August 20th, 2014 at 11:51 pm
Him being killed for jaywalking is not looking to accurate right now lol
Dez August 21st, 2014 at 10:50 am
Yeah he was shoot for no reason which is not any better than being shoot for stealing cigs or jaywalking.
The Correctness August 21st, 2014 at 12:44 pm
No reason huh? glad you were there. How do you explain a fractured orbital bone on the policemen? how do you explain a shot that went off in the car? how do you explain witnesses in the community saying Brown charged him? Just think about that in silence and realize that your own prejudice is clouding potential facts. If then you can get over your own bias and denial, you will be a better more aptly suited person.
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 11:16 am
Let me get this straight? Did Officer Wilson shoot Brown at a distance or at close range? That estimated distance can be easily determined. Did Brown get shoot from the back or the front or both. That can also be determined. Did Brown surrendered after he was wounded or did Officer Wilson continue to shot even after Brown had surrendered? This is the real crux of the matter. Officers are not allowed to continue shooting a suspect after the suspect has been subdued. They cross the line when officers create additional harm to the suspect, which is why we call it excessive force and why it is wrong and why it is a crime.
The issue is that Officer Wilson used excessive force that ended the life of Mike Brown. We as a society can not and do not allow people that we trust to protect and serve to arbitrarily kill another human being without any accountability. When Officer Wilson made the choice to raise his gun and shoot, it better be for a better reason than Brown failing to take his gun so that’s why Wilson decided to mindlessly shoot Brown multiple times.
The Correctness August 25th, 2014 at 11:25 am
Good post, I agree completely. As witnesses on tape said in contrast to what some others had said, he ran at the cop yelling “shoot me” after allegedly attacking the cop and trying to get his gun from him where a shot is said to have gone off in the car. If this is proven to be false, then the cop should be liable to any and all criminal charges. Notice to thugs, attack me and try to wrestle my gun from me you WILL BE SHOT….take heed.
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 12:49 pm
So you believe that an officer is rightly justified in killing a person fleeing after a failed attempt at a struggle for a gun. Well unlike you, I rather that we have officers that do not have the right to arbitrarily decide who should die. Sorry but I do not believe that Mike Brown stopped, turned around and started to go after Officer Wilson after being shot multiple times. It is more conceivable that Officer Wilson used very poor judgment and escalated altercation that he no longer had control over rather than wait for backup.
Officer Wilson initiated an encounter that either he was ill trained for or his actions were completely uncalled for and should be charged with manslaughter. And due to the history of police enforcement in primarily black communities, the police in these areas don’t seem to have the best interest of the community or its citizens.
The Correctness August 25th, 2014 at 1:48 pm
It doesn’t matter what we believe, facts matter. How could he be fleeing if all the shots were on the front torso?! As witnesses stated on tape, he charged the cop screaming “shoot me”. He was a violent thug, this is without question.
Unfortunately, there are excessive run in’s with police in black communities, in most cases they are overran with violent miscreants. If HALF this energy was put into restructuring the hoods and shaming the thug culture instead of encouraging it, not only would the neighborhood flourish but run ins with police would come to a screeching halt.
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 3:18 pm
Your assessment of how black communities behave and black people are is truly horrifying. Your inability to empathies in with the blight of our black citizens is clear and your call for shaming the “thug culture” is laughable. If half the energy was put into treating every citizen as equal and treating every citizen with respect and stop demonizing a whole group like you have done. The most violent miscreants we have in America are the people residing in government and corporations. These are people that evidently cause the most deaths and destruction upon us and you are more concerned with how black folks act.
Let me know when the police forces have targeted the lying, cheating, stealing, folks of Wall Street and Congress or the polluting, war mongering, middle class raping of the wealthy CEOs of corporations. When you finally stop these pompous sociopaths from ever gaining power or influences then maybe we wouldn’t have to deal with police stomping on our liberties.
Mike Brown may not be an outstanding role model citizen but he still had rights to due process like every citizen. But since he’s black, poor, and from a black neighborhood an asshole cop can always roll up anytime for any reason to harass, interrogate, and detain them without having to give any reason. Any black man in public is considered a suspect and its a free for all in how much force officers can apply on them even causing death. Is it a given now that all black men are a possible threat and have no rights? I do still believe we are a nation of laws and our justice system should apply equally and fairly, but this is not the case. When a white officer happens to kill an unarmed black suspect, the community cant demand an thorough, transparent investigation. Why have the justice system trying so hard to sweep it under the rug like so many police shooting unarmed black suspects? Why the need to vilify and demonize the dead suspect before all the facts are known? Why all the cover-up and delays? The officer should be in a cell by now waiting on a bond hiring and preparing to be indicted on murder charges. But still Officer Wilson is protected and resting comfortably in an undisclosed location while on paid leave pending the investigation.
The Correctness August 25th, 2014 at 5:27 pm
Please, I have lived in hoods off and on my whole life, I am very familiar thus an accurate assessment from my experience. Why is shaming the thug culture “laughable”?, when did accountability a bad thing?. MLK is rolling over in his grave right now.
Why is pointing the finger at anywhere but at one’s own destructive habits a good thing? I am not saying everyone in the hood are bad people, but plenty are. Corporations are not violent, shady? plenty are definitely. Government is not violent, unless your want to get into the war aspect which is a whole other debate that we might actually see eye to eye on more. Plenty of CEO’s have been imprisoned for their shady acts. I will admit there is a degree of inequality in sentencing but let’s not be ridiculous. There is a difference in embezzlement and taking people’s life. We are definitely in “off topic” water here anyhow, which will never get to the root of why blacks kill each other and commit crimes at alarming rates exceeding that of the overwhelming majority in whites and Hispanics. Like I said earlier, clean up your neighborhoods, eradicate the cancer of thuggery being cool and the communities will flourish. The term “ghetto” started by one the first oppressed people in America, the Irish, extremely poor, discriminated against yet extremely resilient. With hard work and accountability they rose from the bottom against the odds.
The officer should not be in jail, until the facts say so. As of right now, there are two stories, I am definitely leaning towards the officers story as we see the “gentle giant” wasn’t so gentle, he’s a violent thief thug as a matter of fact. As I said earlier, deer are responsible for more deaths to black people per year than police.
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 1:12 pm
Also take heed that if you kill a person that is running away no matter if they tried to wrestle your gun from you or not, you will still be on trial for murder. No matter self-defense story you come up with, its only going to be your side of the story because the other person is dead. So rather than believe the accounts of the person that has everything to lose, I rather depend on the evidence. The evidence seem to show that Mike Brown was at a considerable distance at the point where he was shot. He was shot multiple times and twice in the head. And the shots on his arm does appear that he had them raised at some point in shooting.
And I would greatly question if a person would come rushing with their arms raised above their head to attack a person with a gun. That clearly doesn’t make good sense.
Even if Brown did try to wrestle a gun from Officer Wilson, he didn’t succeed. And clearly during the time Brown got shot and the supposed struggle in the car, Brown ended up several feet away from the officer when he was shot, which would indicate that Brown did escape some distance from the officer before he was shot. So this would mean that Office Wilson had time to recover his gun and shoot Brown as he was getting away. That to me is more conceivable. Officer Wilson shot a man running away from him and that to me and any reasonable person is murder.
Dez August 27th, 2014 at 6:18 pm
That was a lie that many racists like to believe to fit the racist stereotype of the violent black man that had to be killed or else the cop would have been killed. Like we haven’t heard that narrative of the years.
phantasm76 August 21st, 2014 at 10:46 am
So why wasnt his friends killed for the same reason ? I guess Officer Wilson justt didn’t like Michael all that much huh
Dez August 21st, 2014 at 10:49 am
Unfortunately the officer could only kill one unarmed teen at a time. Yet you do not dispute the fact you think it is okay to shoot a teen for stealing cigs. Says a lot about you that you think the friend should have been shot too.
phantasm76 August 21st, 2014 at 11:15 am
Do you know for a fact he was shot for stealing ? I never said his friends should have been shot too so stop twisting my words, I said if michael was shot then why wasnt his friends shot as well, if they were all at a distance why didnt the officer unload on them too when he started firing ?
Kishona Woodfork August 20th, 2014 at 5:03 pm
All y’all just stfu Wilson needs a lawyer and the ones that disagree needs a life…. Good day!!!! 🙂
Tom Bean August 20th, 2014 at 5:10 pm
How about showing the entire video…
CowboyUpAmerica August 20th, 2014 at 5:46 pm
LOL, you libs are fools…
He is a liar, he is not a doctor…The Brown family hired him…
LOL, http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-mike-brown-autopsy-expert-is-not-a-doctor-has-degree-in-non-existent-medical-field-video/
Anomaly 100 August 20th, 2014 at 7:01 pm
And I’m taking out your extreme right wing link. Thanks just the same.
LX-23 August 20th, 2014 at 10:25 pm
Michael Baden has an MD. Therefore, he is a doctor. Try not to make a fool of yourself when accusing other people of being fools…
R.J. Carter August 21st, 2014 at 2:54 pm
He’s not talking about Michael Baden.
Nicholas Russell Harris August 21st, 2014 at 2:48 pm
Hey look another Fascist
RogDog August 20th, 2014 at 6:26 pm
We simply do not have all the facts. The police should not have released this video. It was completely unwise to do so. It looks like an attempt at character assassination. People jump on one side or another based on their own experiences. Let’s do our best to be on the side of truth. No matter where that lies.
phantasm76 August 21st, 2014 at 8:48 am
Um ok…what does that have to do with the mike brown shooting ? That is an after the fact incodent…off topic much ?
raincheck August 21st, 2014 at 9:00 am
“Sorry, but no officer in their right mind would shoot someone just for being black.” I was responding to your comment.. which implies a cop would NEVER shoot a man because he was black.. by directing you to a video that shows a cop threatening to kill a member of the press for no apparent reason…please try to keep up!!
phantasm76 August 21st, 2014 at 9:04 am
Off topic much still ? Lets get back to the shooting huh ? Try and keep up
raincheck August 21st, 2014 at 9:58 am
You’re being obtuse…
phantasm76 August 21st, 2014 at 10:51 am
Ran out of discussion and had to resort to name calling huh, you must be a liberal. I am actually surprised you didn’t call me racist on top of being stupid
raincheck August 21st, 2014 at 12:37 pm
I didn’t call you a name.. is obtuse a name? I suggest you look it up… Now If I called you “Comic book Man” (phantasm?) lol THAT would be calling you a name! Aren’t you getting “Off topic”? I’m not interested in ANYTHING you have to say, so you’re wasting your time. If I wanted to call you a racist , I would have! As far as being a “Liberal”… well I could be called worse. “Ran out of discussion”? No… it just seems futile to try and engage you any further than I already have… go away! Go hump someone else’ leg.. Do you have some kind of drinking problem? Drugs? mental health issues?… See what you did? Now we’re really “off topic”…. PEACE!!
phantasm76 August 22nd, 2014 at 10:21 pm
My apologies…you must have been refering to me as obtuse..like the angle and clearly not the insulting definition of obtuse which says I lack intellegence, and lets not get on user names because yours must mean you had to take a raincheck the day personalities were handed out, but you have a nice day sir it was fun have a rational (yes I had to snicker while writing that) conversation
raincheck August 21st, 2014 at 9:03 am
Judging from a lot of these comments… it looks like the FPD releasing the video to distract people.. is working
Neezy August 21st, 2014 at 2:03 pm
I’ve watched this about 10x and it doesn’t look like he paid for anything here to me. LOL
Looks like he even offered the random female a few of the ones he snatched from behind the counter. Fail!
Nicholas Russell Harris August 21st, 2014 at 2:47 pm
So because of what you “see” (which I doubt your eyes are functioning right) he deserves to be shot? I guess this means thieves, liars, and any other criminals now need to be executed, but only if they are black!
I am guesaing you watch Fox News and vote Republican?
wildbill357 August 21st, 2014 at 2:58 pm
I don’t think ANYONE has definitively proved that the store incident and the shooting were related. I heard the cop stopped Brown and his friend because they were in the middle of the street. Again, only a madman would jump to conclusions and make accusations without evidence!
R.J. Carter August 21st, 2014 at 3:46 pm
Exactly. The shooting was not because of the alleged robbery. The robbery itself is only relevant because it could set the narrative for later actions — i.e. how Brown may or may not have been acting around an officer confronting him for one thing if he had just committed a crime a few minutes prior.
Nicholas Russell Harris August 21st, 2014 at 4:45 pm
You failed to answer my question friend, for any of those crimes (actual or supposed) did he DESERVE to be SHOT???
Isiah Abraham August 21st, 2014 at 7:07 pm
You stated: “You failed to answer my question friend, for any of those crimes (actual or supposed) did he DESERVE to be SHOT???”
First of all, that decision is first and foremost one that is made by the officer at the scene. Evidently, based on his judgment, he felt that Mr. Brown deserved to be shot. Now was his judgment just or right? Well, that’s what we are trying to find out.
Secondly, If I were the officer at the scene, and if it is indeed the case that Mr. Brown attacked the officer and tried to take away the officer’s weapon (as has been reported), then I would probably have made the same decision as Mr. Wilson.
Now, whether you like it or not, police officers are first and foremost citizens, so they do not give up their right to self-defense just because they are “police officers.” Therefore, just like Mr. Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin case, if a police officer believes that his life is in danger, then he can defend himself with the force necessary to remove that danger.
Thirdly, let me ask you: Do you believe that the officer deserved to be killed?
Nicholas Russell Harris August 21st, 2014 at 7:35 pm
One of my best friends, Mike Lewis is a cop in Oklahoma. (They carry cattle prods out there inatead of tasers, crazy right?) I thank the stars he puts his life on the line. For every bad cop there are ten more doing the right thing, and protecting us all, that is what I believe.
For some reason I doubt the story as truthful due to the time it took to come out. Having been a victim of police corruption myself and fasle accusations (which resulted in the loss of his job) I am always slow to believe a story that aurfaces long after the fact. That being said if he was “beaten” which I doubt he was, then yes deadly force was needed.
Mr. Zimmerman was no officer nor was he supposed to have a gun so THAT point is invalid, and he was told NOT TO FOLLOW OR SHOOT. Which he did, also making the point invalid.
No one deservea to die in a manner auch as this, and no the cop didn’t deserve to die either (if his story was correct and not concocted later).
But I digress. You STILL dodged my question though, did this young man deserve death??? Yes or no?
tweezy August 22nd, 2014 at 10:10 am
Nobody deserves to die! But at the same time, when you break the law (such as stealing from a store and pushing the clerk and then fighting with a cop, and then running from a cop…. all of which are highly illegal. And the cop was beaten because even the doctors said he was very clear that he had just been beaten based on the injuries the cop had…. a swollen face and a fractured eye socket) you get whatever the hell comes you way. It’s very said that someone lost there life but I have no sympathy whatsoever for someone who behaves like this. If you dont want to get shot then obey the law.
If Brown didn’t break the law (multiple times within just a few hours) then he never would have been shot. He brought this on himself.
Nicholas Russell Harris August 22nd, 2014 at 11:10 am
Where is the proof he was beaten? Wherr are the photos of his injuries? The interviews with witnesses that were at the scene go a long way towards discrediting what the police say
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 10:45 am
What officer did Mike Brown kill? Who was the person that had a gun and fired it off? Really? All the excuses you seem to make, just make you more ignorant and trying so hard to justify the actions of an officer who clearly needed more training. Basically you just testified that Officer Wilson killed Mike Brown after failing to take the officers gun and then fleeing. At that point Officer Wilson made the decision to kill Brown as revenge for trying to take his weapon? Sorry but that still doesn’t make justifiable homicide. But we’re suppose believe that Officer Wilson is so scared and fearful that as Brown is fleeing the scene he is still able to raise his gun, aim it at Brown and pull the trigger multiple time hitting Brown at least 6 times. Well, I don’t really want my taxes going to hire people that are so easily fearful and make irrational, unprofessional mistakes that cost the lives of citizens. They are not above the law and Officer Wilson should have been indicted soon after not weeks later and not after days of protest asking for his indictment. Wilson needs to be accountable for his actions.
Isiah Abraham August 27th, 2014 at 7:31 pm
You state: “What officer did Mike Brown kill?”
Was the officer supposed to wait until after Mike Brown had
killed him? Is that your point? And if it is, why? Why do you think it appropriate for the officer to wait to react until after Mr. Brown has killed him? In fact, why would you even entertain the idea that the police officer is supposed to wait to
react only after he has died? If having already been attacked (as has been alleged in this case), is that what you would have done? Would you have waited until after you have been killed before you would react?
2. You state: “Who was the person that had a gun and fired
it off?”
According to reports, that would be the police officer. What is your point? Is the fact that the officer fired the gun supposed to make us ignore the fact that it has been reported that Mr. Brown physically attacked the police officer?
Secondly, what do you think that a police officer’s gun is
for? Is it not for the purpose of firing? Or do you believe that those guns are simply there to decorate and accentuate the waist?
3. You state: “Really? All the excuses you seem to make,
just make you more ignorant and trying so hard to justify the actions of an officer who clearly needed more training.”
Since it would seem that all the excuses that have been made
for those in the Black community has allowed them to grow ever more ignorant, methinks that you may have me confused with those in the Black community who are in need of “more training.”
Secondly, speaking of excuses and training, how about all
the excuses that are being made for Mr. Brown? Why are you trying so hard to justify the actions of an individual
who, if we are to believe the reports, clearly needed more decorum and training?
4. You state: “Basically you just testified that Officer Wilson killed Mike Brown after failing to take the officers gun and then fleeing.”
No, this is what was actually stated: “If I were the officer at the scene, and if it is indeed the case that Mr. Brown attacked the officer and tried to take away the officer’s weapon (as has been reported), then I would probably have made the same decision as Mr. Wilson.” So I did not say that Officer Wilson
killed Mike Brown after failing to take away his gun from himself. Why, when that makes absolutely very little sense, would I say that Officer Brown tried to take the gun from himself?
5. You state, “At that point Officer Wilson made the
decision to kill Brown as revenge for trying to take his weapon?”
Okay. What’s your point?
Secondly, if “revenge” against Mr. Wilson is what you now
seek, then what’s wrong with “revenge?” Are you the only one who is entitled to seek “revenge?” Is that some specific right that only you are allowed to exercise? If so, why?
Thirdly, why is it not the case that Officer Wilson made the
decision to kill Mr. Brown because the act of attacking Officer Wilson and trying to take away his gun had shown Officer Wilson that Mr. Brown was a threat to, not only Officer Wilson, but anyone else?
6. You state; “Sorry but that still doesn’t make justifiable
homicide. “
Yes, we know. Your revenge only makes for the justifiable
prosecution and destruction of a White officer who supposedly kills an “innocent gentle giant” who did not rob a store and who did not attack the officer.
7. You state: “But we’re suppose believe that Officer Wilson
is so scared and fearful that as Brown is fleeing the scene he is still able to raise his gun, aim it at Brown and pull the trigger multiple time hitting Brown at least 6 times”
Well, I don’t know why you would believe that when it has
been reported that, Michael Brown charged back at the police officer, at which time the officer pulled the trigger and hit Mr. Brown at least 6 times. When the report from the autopsies say that Mr. Brown was shot from the front, why would you still insist on believing that Mr. Brown was running away when he was shot? Or is it your belief that Mr. Brown was “fleeing” the officer by running backwards?
8. You said: “Well, I don’t really want my taxes going to hire people that are so easily fearful and make irrational, unprofessional mistakes that cost the lives of citizens.”
Well, since, according to you, Mr. Wilson shot
and killed Mr. Brown out of revenge or on purpose, then, in this case, you don’t have to worry about your taxes “going to hire people that are so easily fearful and
make irrational, unprofessional mistakes that cost the lives of citizens.”
Secondly, since Mr. Wilson is himself a citizen, can you
tell us how you feel about your taxes going towards citizens that make “irrational and unprofessional” decisions that cost the lives of other citizens? Or is that not as important to you?
9. You say, “They are not above the law and Officer Wilson
should have been indicted soon after not weeks later and not after days of protest asking for his indictment.”
Well, what are the rules for an Officer involved
shooting? Can you please bring us the rules that govern the procedures involved in an Officer involved shooting and
show us how, in this case, Mr. Wilson has been placed above the rules?
10. You say, “ Wilson needs to be accountable for his
actions.”
And what unfulfilled trust or violated obligation does Mr.
Wilson need to be “held accountable” for? I am still waiting to hear it.
GrannyBug August 30th, 2014 at 5:48 pm
I wish I could “like” your post a million times! Way to go! Sadly, I believe it will fall on deaf ears. It is easier for him/her to continue with their hatred and racism than it is for him/her to do true research on their own and find the facts for themselves instead of some Facebook meme. Kudos to you!
tweezy August 22nd, 2014 at 9:59 am
here’s an answer to your question dumbass…..
First off, you are clearly racist because you brought up the idea that “its ok for you to be shot if you’re black”. You lowlifes always try pulling the race card every single chance you can get.
the officer had to be taken to the hospital because the entire side of his face was swollen and doctors declared that he was beaten nearly unconscious AND he had a fractured eye socket.
So in other words, he was beaten by Brown, and hard too! Bruises and swelling up like that do not come easily. It takes a lot of intentional force to the head for that to happen, ESPECIALLY to cause a fracture!!
Nobody deserves to die, but if you rob a place, and then walk down the street and fight with a cop then you deserve whatever the hell comes your way. I feel no sympathy whatsoever for people like that!!
Dont steal and dont be a thug and dont bust somebody’s face in, and respect the law and police officer’s and you’ll be fine. If Brown had behaved like we are required to by law then he would still be alive. He caused his own death!! The damn low life community needs to stop trying to blame others
tweezy August 22nd, 2014 at 10:04 am
And another thing…. yea, the robbery and then the officer stopping Brown on the street are probably 2 completely different things and are probably unrelated.
But the robbery (which the surveillance tape proves he did it and even if there was no camera then you still have the store clerk and several eyewitnesses claiming that he stole from the store). And like I was saying, they are probably unrelated but the theft just further proves that when talking about Brown we are dealing with a low life thug.
Get a fucking job and he wouldn’t need to steal and wouldn’t be walking in the middle of the street during the day….he should be at work instead
And who the hell walks down the road in the middle of the street? ….low lifes who think they can do whatever they want. Hince the whole stealing because he wanted to
wildbill357 September 4th, 2014 at 11:42 am
With that logic, Nick, no one DESERVES to be shot! YES, there are most definitely incidents everyday where lethal force is justifiable and USED and rightly so! Cops have one of the toughest jobs in the world putting up with gangsters, thugs, punks and everyday riff raff whose duty it is to break any every law that stops them from carrying on their “business”. They are trained and practice that exercise regularly and YOU PAY THEM TO DO IT! The fact that you now question the cop in this instance is your choice. It happened all the same and will continue to do so whether or not YOU think it was appropriate or not. YOU, in fact, don’t know what happened any more than I do BUT will, in the end, will be forced to accept the adjudication of it by someone who also was not there! That’s the way it works….or is supposed to. The process gets bastardized by people with an agenda unduly influencing the judicial process and not allowing it to take its course. Those who, including you, interject their unfounded perception of racism or accusations of same into a situation further inflamed by “outsiders” (pronounced Jackson, Sharpton and Holder) allow the true crime to take place! That is the subornation of justice and is the very thing that destroys our judicial systems effectiveness. Le the system work as it was intended. The same way it did in State vs. Simpson and State vs. Zimmerman. You may not like the outcome but it IS the way it works in both cases and will in this one, hopefully, in spite of a lynch mob mentality that you seem to be a part of.
Neezy August 22nd, 2014 at 11:28 am
Stop putting words in other people’s mouths, or their comments for that matter. I never said he “deserved to be shot,” dipshit AND if he never took anything, why did the store clerk pursue him TO the front door in other surveillance videos, as if he was trying to keep him from leaving? A known tactic of someone who is keeping someone from leaving a store with unpaid items.
Yeah, I’ll wait…
Nicholas Russell Harris August 22nd, 2014 at 11:51 am
Then perhaps you should clarify, because it sure seems like you are suggesting he deserved to be shot. So are we shooting thieves now then? Have we returned to the days of Ancient Rome or Egypt where we take hands or in a case like this, the very lives of an offender? What sort of barbaric society have we become?
But I digress. You still didn’t answer a single one of my questions.
wildbill357 August 21st, 2014 at 2:55 pm
so lets see…first the strong armed robbery accusation had nothing to do with the murder and the Ferguson PD was racis’ for releasing it and now you’re saying that’s it’s okay to release it because your interpretation of what happened at the counter although you can’t see Brown pay for anything) is proof that there was no crime. Why did the cashier come around the counter and, apparently, leave the till unmanned? To open the door for Brown as a courtesy? Why can’t you let the investigators do their job before you form an opinion about what REALLY happened??
wildbill357 August 21st, 2014 at 3:56 pm
Let’s see what the toxicology reports tell us. I believe he was under the influence of drugs as his insane behavior indicates, to me at least.
Lawrence August 21st, 2014 at 4:06 pm
Maybe you’re on drugs.
Inquiring minds want to know.
phantasm76 August 21st, 2014 at 4:24 pm
Because the media chooses not to focus on the good people trying to do the right thing, they only stroke the fired on the negative
True Grit August 21st, 2014 at 5:09 pm
Bottom line is he paid for the darn cigars, and got shot six times, two of the times in the head…for walking in the middle of the street. Protest ON! It is well deserved. NO ONE from the store staff called the police to report a robbery. It’s all part of the bogus cover-up, along with the claim that he beat the officer in the face. An independent autopsy showed no trauma to Michael Browns hands consistent with a scuffle. The officer’s DNA would have been all over his knuckles (eye juice), if Brown broke his eye socket and swelled his face. Same bogus frame up like Zimmerman.
Jason Neal August 21st, 2014 at 5:27 pm
Kindly look up facts instead of making up your own. The police report filed by the manager disagrees with you:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/ferguson-police-report
Isiah Abraham August 21st, 2014 at 6:51 pm
You say: “Kindly look up facts instead of making up your own. The police report filed by the manager disagrees with you”
Don’t you know that that involves too much work? It’s much easier to sit back and make up your own.
R.J. Carter August 22nd, 2014 at 1:41 pm
Thanks for that link. Up until now I was being led to believe the store manager had done nothing.
tweezy August 22nd, 2014 at 9:55 am
“eye juice”…. are you completely a retarded low life sticking up for a thug or are you just a dumb ass. You don’t know what you’re talking about. There is a very, very small chance that Brown would have any of the officer’s DNA on his hands after beating the officer. Learn a little bit about science and you would know that.
Jason Neal August 21st, 2014 at 5:16 pm
This will undoubtadely get deleted since every other comment here is deleted as well but I’ll say it anyways: Would you care sir to look up the actual police report FILED BY THE CLERK regarding the incident? No? Very well, I’ll look it up for you: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/ferguson-police-report
Try reading all 5 pages. (If your attention span lasts that long any ways)
Obviously the owner will deny anything and everything involving Mike Brown. His store has already been looted and he and his employees have received death threats. Do you really think his attorney is going to suggest he says “Yes, we called the cops.”?
This is of course completely separate from the tragic events that transpired 10 minutes later but seriously dude, don’t keep trying to make him a saint. There’s a mountain of evidence that says he committed the strong armed robbery.
Also, try writing your own shit instead of copy-pasting someone else’s controversial BS.
If you’re gonna blow wind, blow your own instead of plagiarizing that too.
I’ve seen 4 different copies of this “News” that read word for word the exact same from “different” authors.
James August 21st, 2014 at 9:06 pm
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/unarmed-white-man-killed-by-black-cop-heres-how-the-media-reacted
WSHH Top Comments August 21st, 2014 at 10:45 pm
If you believe this story then your just as delusional as the rest. How can you be so gullible as to let an article convince you something else happened when you see it with your own eyes? The man robbed the store get over it
Sam August 22nd, 2014 at 2:30 am
Again, robbery requires force and taking monetary assets. Ie money. What Michael MAY have done is shoplifted. But of course you don’t care because it isn’t you. I suggest getting an education and thinking for yourself
WSHH Top Comments August 21st, 2014 at 10:52 pm
Oh and let’s not forget that the friend admitted to robbing the store. So what’s he lying too? On his own self?
Sam August 22nd, 2014 at 2:28 am
The friend said they shoplifted. Robbing a store requires that you take the monetary assets which neither didn’t do. The shop owner never called the police. And this article isn’t the first to report that. Secondly, if they did rob the store why didn’t the police arrest him? Why would he just let him go if they robbed the store? Oh that’s right because he didnt. Are u one of those people who can’t think for themselves?
R.J. Carter August 22nd, 2014 at 1:39 pm
You mean why haven’t they arrested Dorian Johnson for it?
Maybe because arresting him would then mirandize him, and he’d have the right to remain silent, thus taking away an avenue of testimony from the police investigation?
Sam August 24th, 2014 at 12:09 pm
No my dad is a cop. And like he said….If they really committed the crime he would’ve been arrested. They still would’ve had the testimony they needed because the pressure of prison would’ve cracked him. Also, why are the owners of the store in question now stating they never called the police or that theyweren’t pressing charges because it wasn’t Mike Brown who shoplifted. Why is there now video showing Mike Brown PAYING for his cigarillos? Come man! Make it make sense!
R.J. Carter August 25th, 2014 at 10:11 am
But the video doesn’t show him paying for it. Only the headline says that, and the headline is incorrect.
HauteTrue ModelChic Barbie Mat December 29th, 2014 at 1:19 am
N0 HE DIDNT…
churboysteezy August 21st, 2014 at 11:30 pm
All you negro lovers should look up Dillon Taylor and how he got shot for absolutely nothing…unlike this fool
churboysteezy August 21st, 2014 at 11:33 pm
Whenever someone white gets shot it is never on the news…wtf, that is bullshit..you don’t see us causing riots
Gwen Berry Towe August 22nd, 2014 at 12:28 am
You probably should, especially if it’s unjust! And The accurate term is “protest.” That’s what the bulk of the people on the streets of Ferguson did. Very few rioted, but that’s what some people and the media would like to focus on. If anyone’s killed by a cop, It should make the news. That’s a big reason why it continues.
Sam August 24th, 2014 at 12:20 pm
No proof was given that he attacked the police officer. No picture nothing. You would think the ferguson PD would cover themselves by providing proof that the officer was attacked in some shape or form. They were quick to release a grainy video showing Mike Brown “robbing” a store. Make it make sense
Lboogiespeaks101 September 1st, 2014 at 5:21 pm
Got melanin bytch? Our Sun doesn’t like you! That says alot about the much hated ORIGINAL MAN! You hate what you were not created with. You are dead pale energy who will disintegrate in the sun. You’ve been deceived by your own who created racism that you cling to….pitty
Cassarah Love Ya Peony August 22nd, 2014 at 2:13 am
Yes because lets take away from the fact that he was actually shot while ATTACKING a police officer. SMH!
Sam August 22nd, 2014 at 2:24 am
Police cars have in dash cameras both looking outward and inside the vehicle. If Michael Brown did attack the police officer why not release the video proving it?
R.J. Carter August 22nd, 2014 at 1:38 pm
It’s been documented already that the Ferguson police cars did not have dash cams. They were still in the box awaiting installation.
Sam August 24th, 2014 at 12:10 pm
Well that’s suspicious to say the least.
Nicholas Russell Harris August 24th, 2014 at 4:05 pm
And an awful convenient excuse to commit murder to say the most…
Lboogiespeaks101 September 1st, 2014 at 5:17 pm
Excuses bytch excuses. Got melanin bytch? The sun doesn’t like your pale ass. Stop living in denial just stop it!
HauteTrue ModelChic Barbie Mat December 29th, 2014 at 1:18 am
HE NEVER ATTACKED A C0P…. THE C0P HIT HIM WITH HIS CAR D00R AND HE PUSHED IT BACK 0N THE C0P…AS HE SH0ULD HVE D0NE.. HERE IS A FACT.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yfbbt6DvHg
Sam August 22nd, 2014 at 2:31 am
I feel bad for those people who can’t think for themselves. They believe whatever they see on CNN or Fox News. Shame
UdonNo August 22nd, 2014 at 2:48 am
A BLACK GUY STEALS CIGARS IN FLIP FLOPS AND GETS CALLED A THUG. A WHITE GUY SHOOTS UP A SCHOOL KILLING INNOCENT WOMEN AND KIDS AND IS CALLED MENTALLY TROUBLED. . RIGHT.
tweezy August 22nd, 2014 at 8:55 am
First off…. The clerk SAID that brown was trying to steal and that is why he grabbed him. Then Brown hit and pushed the clerk back and walked out with his UNPAID cigars…. The clerk and the store owner both said that Brown stole cigars. And THAT IS WHY POLICE KNOW THAT BROWN DID INDEED ROB THEM… Because the clerk said so and also because eyewitnesses reported the same thing
STOP TRYING TO DEFEND THE DARKY WHEN HE CLEARLY BROKE THE LAW AND STOLE CIGARS!!!!
And secondly if Brown is so innocent and didn’t do anything wrong then why was the police officer taken to a hospital where doctors said that one side if his face was completely swollen, he had a fractured eye socket and doctors declared that the officer was nearly beaten unconcious.
Do you racist people (the ones trying to make Brown look completely innocent) realize the amount if force AND trauma AND how many hits a person would have to take in the face to get injuries like that!!!!
Those injuries are the result of being attacked and assaulted. Those kind of injuries are impossible to happen accidentaly because someone (brown) was “trying to pull away from the cop”.
The stories that the black community keep giving simply DO NOT match up with the actual evidence and the actual facts of what happened.
To all you idiots making a huge deal about this and trying to defend a thug who pushed a store clerk, then stole cigars and then very ckearly beat the cop….. To all you idiots trying to make Brown seem innocent I say this to you….. Pull your head out of your ass!!!
The fact of the matter is that if Brown had done what ALL AMERICANS ARE REQUIRED BY LAW TO DO, which is and would have been….
1)obeyed the cop and stopped walking in the middle of the road (where he was obstructing traffic)
2)not to touch and especially not to fight and hit a cop (which the officer’s injuries prove he was punching the cop…. Which is illegal)
3)not ron from the cop. Your not supposed to run from cops, especially after you didn’t do what the cop said and then assaulted the cop.
***if Brown had done these things aka following the law, then he never would have been shot.
He also should not have pushed the store clerk and he also should not have stolen the cigars…. Both of which the store clerk and eyewitnesses report that Brown did that.
*****so stop trying to manipulate what you see on the video and stop trying to manipulate the facts and STOP TRYING TO JUSTIFY THE WRONG DOINGS AND LAW BREAKINGS THAT THIS GHETTO ASS THUG DID!!!!
whatajoke August 22nd, 2014 at 10:33 am
Whines about people not providing evidence (because apparently you failed to read ANYTHING in this article?), fails to provide any actual evidence to back up own arguments. Classic scumbag.
Aris Nassau August 22nd, 2014 at 2:09 pm
Certain breeds of white people refuse to learn and can’t be taught. Sad.
Carla Akins August 22nd, 2014 at 3:10 pm
I edited your comment in order to leave it standing. You’re welcome.
Nicholas Russell Harris October 25th, 2014 at 10:29 pm
Your spelling hurt my head
UdonNo August 22nd, 2014 at 5:43 pm
YOU JUST PULLED THE RACE CARD BY CALLING ME YOU PEOPLE. HAHAHA. . IM NOT BLACK, SO IM NOT WORRIED ABOUT POOR BLACK PEOPLE KILLING WHITE PEOPLE. THATS RARE. IM WORRIED ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE KILLING ALL PEOPLE, CAUSE THEY DO IT EVERYWHERE. FACTS.
The Correctness August 23rd, 2014 at 1:41 pm
HAHA…you just posted the opposite of facts dude. Can you please cite your source for such absolute nonsense?. FBI crime statistics 2011: “caucasians are 11 times more likely to be a victims of violent attack by an african americans than the opposite”…this is DESPITE THE FACT that African Americans are only 14% of the population!. Use real data, use your brain, until then kindly STFU unless you want to be decimated in a debate. Also, hispanics are as well, much more likely to violently attack a white person than the opposite.
UdonNo August 23rd, 2014 at 6:21 pm
LIES. I DONT LIVE IN THE GHETTO LIKE YOU SO I DONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BLACKS HAHAHAHA
Sam August 24th, 2014 at 12:16 pm
How is that possible when nearly 70% of blacks live in a poor neighborhood? Your facts are questionable…..at the least.
The Correctness August 24th, 2014 at 3:22 pm
Take it up with the FBI. Here’s another fact, whites are the largest group in poverty.
straighttalker August 22nd, 2014 at 10:16 pm
This account has been verified by CNN…. The Corrupt Negroe Network…..
Sam August 24th, 2014 at 12:13 pm
Well one Mike Brown isn’t a low life cause like the article and several others state. He didn’t steal anything…..He paid for it and left. Keep believing what your overlords tell you
voice_reason August 25th, 2014 at 9:48 am
Uh oh!