Lowry: Forced Kissing Isn’t Sexual Assault
[su_right_ad]To The National Review‘s Rich Lowry, forcing yourself on someone for a kiss isn’t sexual assault.
…Van Jones asked if…Lowry didn’t think certain actions performed without consent constituted sexual assault, whether he would mind them being done to him.
The argument started when Jones brought up the much-cited and much-disputed statistic that 1 in 5 women on college campuses are sexually assaulted.
“That’s a bogus statistic,” Lowry objected. “That statistic is based on a survey that includes attempted forced kissing as sexual assault.”
“That is sexual assault,” Representative Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) said.
“Can I kiss you?” Jones asked. “Can I kiss you here, against your will?”
“Well,” Lowry said. “We’ll talk about this later, Van.”
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John_St_John December 7th, 2014 at 5:33 pm
I would love to see this toad try to do that to some unsuspecting woman and end up with an elbow to his mouth followed by a knee lift to his dominate brain.
MIAtheistGal December 7th, 2014 at 5:34 pm
I bet he’d feel differently if, say, Sean Hayes forcibly kissed him. Not that Sean Hayes would ever do such a thing.
Carla Akins December 7th, 2014 at 5:52 pm
I just want to punch him in the face for being a dumbass.
searambler December 7th, 2014 at 8:48 pm
Good. Simple assault is better….. 😉
Hirightnow December 7th, 2014 at 8:48 pm
Just that one reason?
whatthe46 December 7th, 2014 at 6:09 pm
so if some stranger found his wife attractive and kissed her w/o her permission, he’d be ok with it? my ass!!!!
StoneyCurtisll December 7th, 2014 at 6:14 pm
Lowery is a fool and an apologist for sexual predators.
edmeyer_able December 7th, 2014 at 6:39 pm
What if I forced him to kiss my ass, would that be sexual assault?
John_St_John December 7th, 2014 at 6:59 pm
Only if you let his lips touch skin. Then and only then can you scream assault and drag his name through the mud. If we toss in a rigged crime scene with staged roofies, that would make it even better.
Arturo Jacobo Saiz December 7th, 2014 at 6:49 pm
This is fun….I’d invite the opportunity to approach his wife or his daughter and attempt to kiss them just so I could beat his ass when he tried to stop me…..
Robert M. Snyder December 7th, 2014 at 8:11 pm
Was it sexual assault when Obama did it to a woman at the polling place?
OldLefty December 7th, 2014 at 8:33 pm
Not when it wasn’t forced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFlxj-BCZRQ
whatthe46 December 7th, 2014 at 10:07 pm
if you can’t tell the difference…
Robert M. Snyder December 7th, 2014 at 10:28 pm
I used to think I could tell the difference, when “no means no” was the standard. But under the doctrine of affirmative consent, it seems to me that a guy could get in trouble for kissing a girl if he didn’t obtain verbal permission first. If an unwanted kiss is a “sexual” assault, then kissing is a “sexual” act, which requires affirmative consent. If my son were attending a college that had adopted an affirmative consent policy, I would instruct him NEVER to plant a kiss on a girl w/o first asking permission. Seriously.
whatthe46 December 7th, 2014 at 11:55 pm
simply put. if she does not pull away and returns the kiss, its fine. if she pulls away, but he grabs her and kisses her anyway w/o the response required in agreement, then he’s assaulting her. its quite simple really. she’s saying NO. she’s saying STOP. she’s saying, it’s UNWANTED.
Robert M. Snyder December 8th, 2014 at 12:38 am
Makes sense to me, but as a rule I avoid all physical contact with men, women, and children outside of family, except for handshakes. We have become such a litigious society, and people are so inclined to see innocent acts (e.g. patting a child on the shoulder) in a negative light, that I simply avoid physical contact with people because I don’t want to deal with it. As a middle-aged man, I would feel completely defenseless against any allegation of unwanted touching. The public is predisposed to believe an accuser who might say that a kiss on the cheek or a pat on the shoulder was unwanted. So I just avoid all contact except with people I know well. My career goals are too important to me to risk any kind of legal entanglements that would consume time and energy.
tracey marie December 8th, 2014 at 3:55 pm
what a spin , shame on you for marginalizing the horrendous acts of sexual assault and rape
Robert M. Snyder December 8th, 2014 at 4:29 pm
Shame on me for what? There are published authors who contend that every act of sex is rape, consensual or not. This article suggests that unwanted kisses constitute a sexual assault. So just who is marginalizing sexual assault and rape?
tracey marie December 8th, 2014 at 4:36 pm
It is sexual assault to grab a woman and forceably kiss her. I would file charges against any creepy little troll who did such a thing
Robert M. Snyder December 8th, 2014 at 4:45 pm
And that is exactly the reason I said in my previous post “If my son were attending a college that had adopted an affirmative consent policy, I would instruct him NEVER to plant a kiss on a girl w/o first asking permission”. So why did you object to that post? I don’t get it.
afftongrown December 7th, 2014 at 8:15 pm
Find a woman he finds most hideous, and have her force herself on him.I’m. sure he’ll. be singing quite a different. song. very quickly!
edmeyer_able December 8th, 2014 at 9:14 am
Right now I would imagine it would be easier to find a woman who thinks HE’s hideous.
Robert M. Snyder December 7th, 2014 at 8:34 pm
Sexual assault in Times Square?
searambler December 7th, 2014 at 8:47 pm
Looks consentual to me.
Robert M. Snyder December 7th, 2014 at 10:30 pm
A good attorney could easily convince a jury otherwise.
whatthe46 December 7th, 2014 at 11:52 pm
not if she said it wasn’t.
Larry Schmitt December 9th, 2014 at 11:51 am
You can’t apply today’s standards to something that happened 70 years ago.
Kick Frenzy December 8th, 2014 at 12:51 am
What an idiot.
rg9rts December 8th, 2014 at 2:26 am
Easy for him to say till its his mother