Missouri Pol Defends Bill Requiring Women To Get Permission Before Abortions
[su_right_ad]Missouri State Rep. Rick Brattin is defending his bill that would require a woman to get permission from the man who got her pregnant before she could get an abortion.
“It’s not a woman’s body with an abortion. It’s a child’s body.” Brattin told KHSB-TV. “It’s a child’s life that’s taken. The woman’s life is not altered.”
Brattin’s proposal, House Bill 131, states that no abortion can be performed in the state “unless and until the father of the unborn child provides written, notarized consent.”
It further allows for exemptions based on cases of incest, a deceased father — confirmed via “a notarized affidavit” — and rape. But Brattin originally said a woman must show that she has been the victim of “legitimate rape” before being allowed to invoke the rape exemption.
Brattin now says he was misunderstood and that documentation following a rape is not necessary, and that this bill is for the purpose of fathers’ rights.[su_csky_ad]
tiredoftea December 20th, 2014 at 10:11 pm
Wow! That’s the first guy I ever heard about who wished his Mom had one.
whatthe46 December 20th, 2014 at 10:17 pm
If his daughter, were to
say, became pregnant for someone of a different race, and she wanted an
abortion, I bet he’d approve. Then how
would he feel if the guy said “b.s.” and she was forced to bring “shame” (in
his eyes) to his family. His tune would
change in a fk’n heartbeat.
tiredoftea December 20th, 2014 at 10:27 pm
Or, one of his ex-girlfriends.
whatthe46 December 20th, 2014 at 10:33 pm
or his mistress.i bet my cyber bucks, he’d drive to the nearest city to get it done.
rg9rts December 21st, 2014 at 7:10 am
You know that these sanctimonious types are alley cats
whatthe46 December 20th, 2014 at 10:14 pm
permission this b’tch.
Obewon December 20th, 2014 at 11:00 pm
Did Missouri State Rep. Rick Brattin’s mom get a note for the 4+ natural miscarriages preceding his birth? That’s 32 billion+ natural miscarriages for 8 B earthlings.
Guy Lauten December 20th, 2014 at 11:16 pm
Hey Reince… How’s that “re-branding” thingy workin’ for ya’?
uzza December 21st, 2014 at 12:02 am
“It’s a child’s life” and the father has the right to take it, sez he, but the mother doesn’t.
So much for the argument that every fetus has a God-given right to life. If the life depends on the whim of the father, God has nothing to do with it. He’s letting the curtain slip.
whatthe46 December 21st, 2014 at 5:01 am
wow. you know, i didn’t even look at it from that stand point. nice catch.
Anomaly 100 December 21st, 2014 at 12:12 am
I have a body just like everyone else. It belongs to me. Men will not tell me what direction my life will take. You see, like so many other women, I’m a rape survivor. It was my choice not to give birth to a rapist’s baby. I hope you “pro-life” Republicans will forgive me for choosing to live. It was that, or suicide.
Best regards and happy holidays,
Anomaly
burqa December 21st, 2014 at 12:39 am
Great post, Anomaly100!
The presumption of these cretins is galling and is matched in idiocy by their thick-headedness.
neworleans878 December 21st, 2014 at 4:46 am
Wow. Admiration.
edited a few times
whatthe46 December 21st, 2014 at 5:00 am
bless your heart.
raincheck December 21st, 2014 at 7:26 am
Wow… You are, an amazingly brave woman!
burqa December 21st, 2014 at 12:37 am
That guy has more greasy kid’s stuff on his hair than Rand Paul.
I’ll bet the seat backs of the furniture in his house and his car seat look like the floor of a garage…..
Elizabeth R. Lewis December 21st, 2014 at 12:46 am
There’s no exception to save the life of the mother??? Also: “It’s not a woman’s body with an abortion. It’s a child’s body.” Brattin told KHSB-TV. “It’s a child’s life that’s taken. The woman’s life is not altered.” Well, if all he wants is the man’s permission for the purpose of father’s rights, then he really doesn’t give a hoot about the child’s life. He just cares about men having power over women.
raincheck December 21st, 2014 at 7:17 am
“He just cares about men having power over women”
That covers every single (male.. in some cases female) republican
Bunya December 21st, 2014 at 2:48 pm
It’s always been about controlling women. It has nothing to do with saving babies or some such nonsense. They couldn’t care less about saving babies (hence the great numbers of abused, neglected and hungry babies worldwide). Since women today are free to make their own decisions, men are worried they’re losing control. Controlling women’s reproductive systems is their last hope to preserving their masculinity. That’s why so many men can be found terrorizing the women outside Planned Parenthood clinics.
Dwendt44 December 21st, 2014 at 12:51 am
You don’t suppose he had a girlfriend in his past the ‘didn’t ask permission’ to abort do you?
Robert M. Snyder December 21st, 2014 at 2:02 am
Perhaps this politician would be less controversial in Europe.
From an Article in The Atlantic by Emily Matchar, Aug 5, 2013:
In Germany, women seeking first-trimester abortions are subject to a mandatory three-day waiting period and a counseling session. Abortions after the first 12 weeks of pregnancy are forbidden except in cases of grave threat to the mother’s physical or mental health.
The Netherlands mandates a five-day waiting period between initial consultation and abortion; clinics must provide women with information about abortion alternatives. Abortion is then legal until viability (legally defined as 24 weeks, usually interpreted as 22 weeks).
In Belgium, where abortion was illegal until 1990, there’s a six-day waiting period and the woman must claim to be in “a state of distress” before receiving a first-trimester abortion.
In Finland, abortion is available up to 12 weeks of pregnancy, unless the woman is under 17 years old, in which case she may have an abortion until she’s 20 weeks pregnant. But even for early abortions, women must provide a “social reason” for seeking to terminate her pregnancy, such as poverty, extreme distress, or already having at least four children. While in practice most abortion requests are granted, it still forces women to prove to an authority the validity of their desire not to have a baby.
In Denmark, abortion is available on demand up to 12 weeks of pregnancy. Afterward, exceptions are made for cases of rape, threats to the woman’s physical or mental health, risk of fetal defects, and — revealingly — in cases where the woman can demonstrate lack of financial resources to care for a child.
Russia recently passed a law restricting abortion to the first 12 weeks of pregnancy, and Russian clinics are also now forced to give (medically dubious) warnings about the health risks of abortion, which supposedly include cancer and infertility.
After the fall of the USSR, Poland enacted some of Europe’s strictest abortion laws, banning the procedure except in cases of rape, fetal malformation, or serious threats to the woman’s health. The Ukraine is currently threatening to follow suit.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/08/in-liberal-europe-abortion-laws-come-with-their-own-restrictions/278350/
whatthe46 December 21st, 2014 at 4:57 am
perhaps, is because we are in AMERICA and we (women) don’t like big brother in our p____. what’s going on in those countries, is their problem. we love our freedom.
rg9rts December 21st, 2014 at 7:08 am
The gopee wants to seriously clip your wings…you are supposed to OBEY
neworleans878 December 21st, 2014 at 5:14 am
OK…you’re saying Europeans know better than us?
Naw…I’ll trust what American ladies have to say any day…
ps…don’t believe that crap about them European ladies…
allison1050 December 21st, 2014 at 7:00 am
So when are you moving Robert?
rg9rts December 21st, 2014 at 7:07 am
As soon as wifey packs his bags
raincheck December 21st, 2014 at 7:02 am
“Perhaps this politician would be less controversial in Europe”
Maybe he (and you) should move to Europe..
allison1050 December 21st, 2014 at 7:03 am
I think Robert should move also.
raincheck December 21st, 2014 at 7:18 am
I agree…
fahvel December 21st, 2014 at 1:34 pm
europeans would reject this slime like a slug on the patio – when americans speak about europe they are usually wrong or say their authority is based on a conversation with a european or, more effective, they visited Paris for two weeks.
raincheck December 21st, 2014 at 6:40 pm
“europeans would reject this slime like a slug on the patio” LOL
As for the rest of your post, I have to agree… they don’t speak from any REAL information, it might just have been something their ‘low information’ Uncle said about Europe..
Robert M. Snyder December 22nd, 2014 at 1:51 am
The Germans, Dutch, Belgians, Finns, and Danes have instituted, through their own democratic processes, abortion policies that are more restrictive in many ways than the ours. This demonstrates that reasonable people can disagree about what should be allowed and disallowed. To suggest otherwise is to suggest that the Germans, Dutch, Belgians, Finns, and Danes are not reasonable people.
We are constantly told that Republicans lack compassion because they do not support universal healthcare. Since Europeans overwhelmingly support universal healthcare, it cannot be said that they lack compassion. Therefore, the more restrictive abortion laws in these European countries do not reflect a lack of compassion for the mother. They can only be attributed to a greater degree of compassion for the unborn child.
rg9rts December 21st, 2014 at 7:06 am
Yo fuzzy nuts…remember the good ole days when it was a trip to Sweden??? Find another continent to move to…you’d be no prize in Europe
causeican December 21st, 2014 at 7:21 am
So you’re all for abortions in the first trimester and in the case medical emergency?
Robert M. Snyder December 21st, 2014 at 12:05 pm
I believe that life begins at ovulation, meaning that God places a soul into each egg at this time. I believe that God created sexual desire so that men and women would dutifully fertilize each and every egg. Resisting sexual desire is resisting the will of God.
“Go forth and multiply.”
Okay, I’m just kidding. But isn’t this equally as plausible as the commonly-held belief that life (the soul) begins at conception? In earlier times, people believed that the soul arrived at the quickening, when the mother first felt the baby moving. I’m just (jokingly) asking “What if it were BEFORE conception?”, which would lead to the conclusion that celibacy is a sin. Please don’t take me seriously. It’s just a thought experiment.
causeican December 21st, 2014 at 12:20 pm
So why bring up German Abortion law? They support a woman’s right to have a safe legal abortion.
allison1050 December 21st, 2014 at 1:45 pm
Don’t try and back peddle ’cause it’s not working. So where’d you go to med. school Mr. I believe that life begins at ovulation? Missed Biology 1 is what that says about you dear.
Dwendt44 December 21st, 2014 at 1:48 pm
Back in biblical days the ‘soul’ (which means breath) doesn’t arrive until birth, when the infant draws it’s first breath.
Of course to christians, who cares what the bible says.
Obewon December 21st, 2014 at 2:21 pm
You should explain why God kills 4+ blastocysts & Fetuses via natural miscarriage “in the first trimester” per each live human birth-D’oh! The uninformed dogmatic fables you nuts fuel yourself with could flood the Earth for the first time in 3.8 B years, or make you believe people live inside plankton eating whales…. Pictured is Noah’s droplett 820 mile diameter sphere of all water in, below and above Earth in our atmosphere. http://water.usgs.gov/edu/gallery/global-water-volume.html
causeican December 21st, 2014 at 5:02 pm
I support a woman’s right to choose. Follow the thread.
Obewon December 21st, 2014 at 9:45 pm
Sorry I “misunderestimated” your prochoice abortion on demand approval for any woman’s right to choose per SCOTUS until the 28th week.
causeican December 22nd, 2014 at 9:13 am
All is well Obewon.
arc99 December 21st, 2014 at 11:05 am
Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, Finland and Denmark all have publicly funded universal health care.
So let’s implement that here in the USA. Then we can discuss comparisons with these countries. It is conservatives who keep telling us that government should stay out of health care. This MIssouri politician is the personification of my main beef with the right where professed beliefs are easily discarded when those beliefs don’t fit with the political goal of the day.
fahvel December 21st, 2014 at 1:31 pm
so what?
Bunya December 21st, 2014 at 1:51 pm
Abortions have been performed for years and nobody complained. Of course that’s because women got their husband’s permission first, and other women who found themselves in that position, had to rely on back alley abortions, coat hangers and douches. They would risk their lives, body mutations and death in an effort to rid themselves from a unwanted pregnancy -and nobody cared, especially not the religious so-called “pro-life” group.
The religious right maintains it has ALWAYS believed that life begins a conception. I call BS. I say that belief started in 1973.
CherMoe December 21st, 2014 at 3:03 pm
And I suppose you, a man, of course, agree with it, right? How easy it is for the person who IMPREGNATES to dictate how a woman should deal with the result of HIS actions. Most of the so-called “pro-life” males don’t or won’t support any babies born of their sexual acts. At least, not outside marriage. Males have a double standard. It’s okay for “men” to have pre-marital sex, but not women. And then the woman must suffer as a result of said actions. And the children, of course. Because we DON’T see “pro-lifers” out there adopting and supporting all these babies they are forcing women to bear. Not even close! They are just IMPOSING their control over women!
Robert M. Snyder December 21st, 2014 at 3:44 pm
I did not say that I approved of the European laws. I just wanted to point out the fact that, on this issue, America seems to be somewhat more progressive than Europe. I have a feeling that a lot of people don’t realize that America has some of the least restrictive abortion laws in the world.
allison1050 December 21st, 2014 at 6:59 am
BS! Maybe he and the idiot cow he’s married to enjoy playing daddy and little girl, yeah that must be it.
rg9rts December 21st, 2014 at 7:04 am
Thanks alli I was wondering what to call the twit that would marry a POS like him . Someone tell this moron that its the 21 not 18 century!
allison1050 December 21st, 2014 at 1:40 pm
Cow always fits the 1 that stays married to a twit like him. 😉
CherMoe December 21st, 2014 at 2:58 pm
Oh, cause the “rapist” is going to sign papers that he performed a “legitimate” rape rather than consensual sex. Cause guys are so HONEST, right? Republicans have neurons misfiring in their pea-brains!
mmaynard119 December 21st, 2014 at 7:25 pm
The things some pols will do to get laid. Maybe if he moved out of his mother’s basement, he might get more action.
annaaurora December 23rd, 2014 at 7:24 am
Sanctimonious Pratt. He’s on FB. He took down his Public page but you can post on his private via message. Please feel free to blow it up. I’ve done so a few times. He’s also a creationist if this gives you more insight, possibly a quiverer. He’s an asshole for sure.