Ahmed Merabet: Police Officer Executed In ‘Charlie Hebdo’ Terrorist Attack Was Muslim
Just in case you think terrorists doing things in the name of Allah are actually representing the Islamic faith, this should indicate that it’s about terrorism, not religion.
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Ahmed Marabet was executed at point blank range by Islamist terrorists during the attack on the magazine Charlie Hebdo, a killing that was caught on a graphic video.
Now reports have emerged that Marabet was Muslim himself. The police officer was assigned to the 11th arrondissement, the neighborhood where Charlie Hebdo‘s office is located…
After the gunman yelled “Tu voulais nous/me tuer?” which translates roughly to: “You wanted to kill us/me,” the officer answered “Nan c’est bon chef!” which told the gunmen that he was unable to fight and they did not need to kill him.
The terrorist fired a running shot toward the police officer’s head, and the officer then fell motionless. The two then got into a black car and drove away.
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Ray M. January 8th, 2015 at 12:10 pm
The terrorists were Muslim but they don’t “represent” the Islamic faith.
Scopedog January 8th, 2015 at 2:10 pm
Exactly. But that won’t stop others from using the broad brush to slather everyone who is Muslim with the “terrorist” label.
McVeigh was Catholic, but didn’t represent the Catholic faith.
StoneyCurtisll January 8th, 2015 at 12:10 pm
These murdering sociopaths dont care if they kill Muslims, or anyone else.
It’s all about making a statement and of course a large body count.
mea_mark January 8th, 2015 at 12:15 pm
I wouldn’t go so far to say that it is not about religion. It is certainly more about terrorism than anything else. Ignoring the fact these terrorist are part of an extreme far right fundamental religious sect that is perverting the basic framework of a religious faith doesn’t help though. Motivation is always crucial in understanding events and ignoring a critical part of that because of some discomfort is not productive. Blame needs to go where blame should go. Let’s just make sure we get it right and keep our mind open to what is really happening.
Bunya January 8th, 2015 at 1:19 pm
It’s not about religion. Do you think decent Muslims want another war because a few goofs are killing “in the name of Allah”? This has nothing to do with religion and has everything to do with (IMO) the 2016 elections. It’s getting pretty close and, like the 2000 election, it’s important to have a GOP president. Watch for another SCOTUS-appointed leader.
mea_mark January 8th, 2015 at 2:28 pm
I think some people with religious beliefs are being preyed upon and manipulated. Religion is part of the equation and can’t be taken out. The fundamental core part of the problem is probably tied to greed and power. Somebody or some group wants more power for selfish reasons and are using religion as a way to control people. Religion is being used as a tool, it is not the reason.
I really don’t think whoever is behind this though has getting the next president elected as a republican, as a priority though. More likely someone or a group of someones, in the middle east thinks that they can become the caliphate or establish a puppet caliphate, and rule that part of the world.
Bunya January 8th, 2015 at 3:49 pm
I don’t think so. It’s way too easy to blame the Muslims for this. Something tells me this goes way deeper and claiming this is just the work of another “wacky religious extremists” is a good excuse to rile up the public against Muslims. That way, when another war erupts (I think the next GOP target is Syria), they’ll have the backing of the American people against the evil Muslim empire.
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I’m looking at the Bush family involvement in the Arab government. I smell a rat.
Ray M. January 8th, 2015 at 5:35 pm
Again, so true!!!!!
Ray M. January 8th, 2015 at 5:35 pm
So true!!!!!
anothertoothpick January 8th, 2015 at 12:55 pm
Let’s just hope the leaders of France don’t over react like dubya did, or we will have a third world war on our hands.
This should be handled as a police action and not another government on government war.
dubya reacted just like bin Laden predicted. And this resulted into huge Jihadist recruitments.
Before 9/11 Al-Qaeda was basically washed up after fighting the Russians in Afghanistan and basically needed something to do.
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 1:34 pm
Consider that 1% of a religion with a billion is 10 million.
Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
Recent Pew polls:
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/
rg9rts January 8th, 2015 at 3:39 pm
Missing question…how many young Muslims want to be suicide bombers
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 4:00 pm
They should put that in their next poll.
“Religious beliefs do not simply mold individuals. They exist as “sets of ideas that ‘are there,’ as if on the shelves of a supermarket waiting for someone to make them their own.” Individuals pull them off the shelf when their old frames no longer make sense of the world around them.
If beliefs are not born of sacred texts alone, neither are behaviors like marytrdom. Rather, would-be bombers place jihadi values — fighting for life, dignity, equality — above all else. It is not the commandment that is sacred, but the emotional reward it bestows. We need to be asking new questions: For what are normal individuals able to kill? A plausible answer is: their community, under threat. When does a person make costly sacrifices to do so?
Within a social structure — a terror cell, a military unit, a family, or group of friends — that continually regenerates conviction to a cause, a feeling of obligation to do something about it, and a sense of shame at the idea of letting each other down. Whether one lands in a social group with jihadi tendencies may be random. But the prerequisite for this path is perceived injustice.”
http://www.alternet.org/story/35815/the_hard_truth_about_suicide_bombers
rg9rts January 8th, 2015 at 4:19 pm
I relate to chicken hawks,,,sitting on the side lines cheering on the war while not doing anything themselves..
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 4:31 pm
You’re delusional if you think awareness is being pro war.
rg9rts January 9th, 2015 at 1:25 am
I’m delusional?? I HATE war …I did my 6 and know why . I don’t need armchair generals ….what did you do in the war daddy??
Jones January 9th, 2015 at 1:27 am
Your delusional alright.
rg9rts January 9th, 2015 at 1:31 am
Nothing hero… Hey memorial day is coming…get the old flag out and wrap your self in it …
Jones January 9th, 2015 at 1:35 am
Murder some more people soldier.
rg9rts January 9th, 2015 at 1:39 am
Got your number…..0
Jones January 9th, 2015 at 1:48 am
Fire away killer.
rg9rts January 9th, 2015 at 1:40 am
What did you do besides add to the CO2 problem …I know …increased methane output by talking
Jones January 9th, 2015 at 1:46 am
What a fart you are.
rg9rts January 9th, 2015 at 4:00 am
Know your name too…what a bright little boy you are
Jones January 9th, 2015 at 4:05 am
A thousand times brighter than you, killer.
Jones January 9th, 2015 at 1:29 am
I fought against war, not in it.
rg9rts January 9th, 2015 at 1:39 am
Hero
Jones January 9th, 2015 at 1:48 am
Thank you. I’an a hero for being a war resister.
rg9rts January 9th, 2015 at 4:02 am
You think soldier is a derogatory term???
Jones January 9th, 2015 at 4:04 am
Killers
rg9rts January 9th, 2015 at 5:44 am
Ben gha zi ben gha zi…what a tired trite comment you make..just like the gopee…go away little boy …you bother me LOL
Jones January 9th, 2015 at 8:40 am
How many people did you kill for murrica…daddy?
rg9rts January 9th, 2015 at 8:47 am
Probably in the hundreds…B52’s were pretty efficient..
Jones January 9th, 2015 at 11:53 am
Sounds like you loved it.
rg9rts January 9th, 2015 at 12:21 pm
I wanna kill see dead bodies veins in my teeth,, Kill Kill kill
Jones January 9th, 2015 at 12:23 pm
Now you’re showing your true self.
rg9rts January 9th, 2015 at 1:01 pm
Moron Alice’s Restaurant
Jones January 9th, 2015 at 1:09 pm
Redneck.
rg9rts January 9th, 2015 at 1:15 pm
Your ignorance astounds the planet why don’t you google it dipstick
Jones January 9th, 2015 at 1:38 pm
Typical redneck. Go bomb some more civilians. It might cheer you up.
Rape Room Made In U.S.A. January 8th, 2015 at 11:20 pm
Actually, it seems that you would have captured the article best by quoting the final paragraphs:
The social networks theory has several implications for policy.
First, because commitment to jihad is rarely a cost-benefit decision, or an explicit decision at all, military deterrence will likely fail.
Terrorists and insurgents forge loyalties that are difficult to betray, and like our own military units, many would prefer to fight to the death rather than leave their brothers. Second, under urban conditions of asymmetrical engagement, military missions almost inevitably entail civilian casualties. Military leaders must re-conceptualize the effect civilian casualties have on the populations surrounding the terrorist or insurgent. They are frequently interpreted by the population as offensive, and thereby engender an impulse to fight back. As one Palestinian told a reporter: "If we don't fight, we will suffer. If we do fight, we will suffer, but so will they."
Lastly, findings
about the way in which people acquire beliefs suggest that a war of ideas will mean nothing unless it resonates emotionally with our targets. Emotional resonance only comes when the values we promote reflect our role in the local realities on foreign ground.
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 11:35 pm
I had hoped that the entire article would be read.
Rape Room Made In U.S.A. January 8th, 2015 at 11:52 pm
It doesn’t seem to jibe with your alarmism about Islam.
Jones January 9th, 2015 at 12:03 am
You and other misinterpret me. I’m through.
Jones January 9th, 2015 at 12:12 am
Just deleted my account :<)
tracey marie January 8th, 2015 at 5:25 pm
why did you highlight the 2007 poll instead of the newer polls?
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 5:30 pm
I added the newer poll as an edit when I found it.
tracey marie January 8th, 2015 at 5:40 pm
But why would you use a 7 year old poll as if it were relevent today?
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 5:46 pm
Initially, I did not know there was a more recent one.
tracey marie January 8th, 2015 at 5:52 pm
Still, why use an irrelevent poll, I really do not understand. You seem to be determined to prove Islam is bad, all believers are bad…does not seem like you
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 6:05 pm
The poll was true 7 years ago, I don’t think that’s irrelevant. The second pole shows more tolerance but there is still significant numbers that support terror by suicide bombing. I’m an atheist and I believe religion is generally bad. Islam is further behind than most. Acid throwing, hand chopping, apostate killing, gay killing, treating women like cattle…not in the US but only because its not tolerated here.
“Muslims consider the honor of the Prophet Muhammad to be dearer to them than that of their parents or even themselves. To defend it is considered to be an obligation upon them. The strict punishment if found guilty of this crime under sharia (Islamic law) is capital punishment implementable by an Islamic State. This is because the Messenger Muhammad said, “Whoever insults a Prophet kill him.”
tracey marie January 8th, 2015 at 6:08 pm
I agree, I am not starting with jones. I respect his comments and him as a person. It just does not sound like him
Rape Room Made In U.S.A. January 9th, 2015 at 12:38 am
Jones either got his account hacked or is having a crisis. I wish him well.
Jones January 9th, 2015 at 1:25 am
I’m deleting my account, Disqus says it take up to 24 hrs. I’v not been hacked and am not having a crisis. I’m fatigued with people who can’t take positions other than their own at face value. I allow others there opinions. You were the tipping point…the last person I expected to act that way.
tracey marie January 8th, 2015 at 6:08 pm
I thought I was posting to someone else…just replace he and him with yuour name.
Rape Room Made In U.S.A. January 8th, 2015 at 11:31 pm
Actually, you misquote the earlier study. It doesn’t say that “35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall)”–it says that 35% of 18-29 year-old muslims think that suicide bombings are EVER justified. Of those, almost half think they are rarely justified with the other group believing they are “sometimes” or “often” justified.
I hope you will take this in good spirit. I realize you discontinued following me etc.
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 11:58 pm
Quibble. It was cut and paste.
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 2:48 pm
Last night I watched Rachel Madow recount the attacks over the last few years that were attributed to Muslim terrorist. For each incident she said “Muslim” terrorists, I lost track of how many times she said it. I guess she’s not yet on the same page as Biden.
Weebal January 8th, 2015 at 3:30 pm
Rachel Maddow is an Israel-Firster.
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 4:55 pm
I haven’t seen that, but I’ve only been watching her a couple of years.
“Rachel Maddow’s Morally Bankrupt Campaign Against Israel’s Right to Exist”
http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2012/11/rachel-maddows-morally-bankrupt.html
Weebal January 8th, 2015 at 5:33 pm
The video link doesn’t work. Try a Duckduckgo search to prove my point rather than disprove it; like [“Rachel Maddow” zionist]. You’ll come up with some non-right wing sites.
(ps–right wing sites, like American Thinker aren’t always wrong, but I would put it to you that they are always wrong to cite as a primary source; for the simple reason that they are not the most credible.)
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 5:42 pm
All my searches are duckduckgo. I found some sites that said she was in cahoots with Alex Jones, and some dated sites where she was more pro Isreal. I’v watched her almost every day for the last two years…I think I’ll just go with my direct experience as to her current position on Israel.
Weebal January 8th, 2015 at 5:57 pm
I know your searches are DuckDuckGo. You got me using it instead of Startpage. Thanks for that, but it’s neither here nor there. What I was getting at is that if you always search for something to validate your perspective, you are likely to find it… and sometimes in some places that others will rightly know as disreputable. Where you are most likely to find true justification to maintain your beliefs–or jettison them–is by searching for disproof.
Did you look at the video link I provided? (I did add it as an edit so you may not have seen it.) When she listed Israel’s attack on Beruit among wars in which Israel was attacked by Arabs, that should serve as clear evidence that she is not trustworthy. I used to love Rachel Maddow and listened to her religiously from 2006-2009 or so. She is a Zionist shill and actually quite a partisan hack of a pundit.
http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/2013/12/rachel-maddow-is-nightmare.html
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 6:34 pm
I found that David Duke and Alex Jones really believe she is a Zionist.
Weebal January 8th, 2015 at 10:09 pm
Okay, but according to our shared understanding about “poisoning the well”–which actually was a misnomer on your part, the real description of this rhetorical trick being “reverse appeal to authority”– it doesn’t prove anything one way or another.
I may have overstated my case about Maddow, but I’ve heard her on more than one occasion take an obnoxiously wrong tone in regard to Israel and have provided one link (which actually works) as an example; I will though, concede that she is a mixed bag in comparison to others.
tracey marie January 8th, 2015 at 7:19 pm
shame on you…she never said any such thing, this site (neo-conservative and anti islam) took her words of “descalation in gaza and twisted it and you happily pass it along
Jones January 9th, 2015 at 1:45 am
That was posted in response to Weebal to show that the righting was mad at Rachel for not being Pro-Isreal enough. You don’t seem to follow the thread.
rg9rts January 8th, 2015 at 3:37 pm
Wore the wrong clothes
fancypants January 8th, 2015 at 5:05 pm
a Muslim officer that doesn’t have a gun or wont shoot back in a town like paris
Does paris need any republicans ? We can make a sweet deal if they come to the table
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 5:32 pm
“The Blame for the Charlie Hebdo Murders”
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/blame-for-charlie-hebdo-murders
tracey marie January 8th, 2015 at 7:05 pm
shame on you
Weebal January 8th, 2015 at 8:36 pm
I certainly don’t say “shame on you” but I do think the current dynamic isn’t so simply explained as by your citations; it isn’t honestly characterizable as a one-sided attack, and such a characterization is unjust.
Sometimes from your commentary it seems that you are proselytizing against Islam–and such proselytization is not something I’d want to touch with a ten foot pole. My perception is that we are experiencing an ongoing continuation of a battle which has been set up by ideologues on two sides; each of which thinks the next logical step will work in their favor. It ratchets us further and further towards a religious conflagration based solely on “scriptural truths.”
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 10:03 pm
I’m a devout atheist, I proselytize against all fantasies..especially when they advocate killing apostates, chopping hand off petty thieves, stoning women for adultery, keeping women like chattel, making women wear burkas, convincing children to blow themselves up, hanging gays and other violations of basic human rights. Maybe its PC to “respect” religions, I don’t. You can believe what you like if its not hurting anyone…that’s not the case with Islam is many parts of the world. A tenet of the religion is establishing sharia law globally and true believers say that it will happen. I could be just as easily proselytizing against Christian Dominionist on the right…and everyone would get behind it. I don’t know why liberals give Islam a pass on human rights, they want to pretend that American Muslims represent Islam…when they are a small minority of Islamist.
Today
Nigeria’s militant Islamists have carried out a second attack on the key north-eastern town of Baga, an official has told the BBC.
Boko Haram fighters burnt down almost the entire town on Wednesday, after over-running a military base on Saturday, Musa Alhaji Bukar said.
Bodies lay strewn on Baga’s streets, amid fears that some 2,000 people had been killed in the raids, he added.
Not in the news because black lives don’t matter?
Weebal January 8th, 2015 at 10:27 pm
Fighting manspreading… huh… seems there are fighters pro– and con– for that. I happen to ride mass transit on a fairly regular basis and see the practical aspects of the continuing breakdown of public civility there. You?
Anyhow, you could just as easily be proselytizing against Christian Dominionists… but don’t. Why? I think either you don’t believe they are really equivalent dangers–or you consciously or unconsciously feel greater kinship with such. Is there another option?
You list some horrific developments on the religious war front. I suppose even atheists are suppose to choose sides now?
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 11:15 pm
I got banned from a site for vigorously attacking Christian Dominionism, so…
Jones January 9th, 2015 at 2:14 am
” I suppose even atheists are suppose to choose sides now?”
I never suggested any form of violence as a solution, if that’s your meaning.
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 6:46 pm
Saudi Arabia condemns killings at Charlie Hebdo and calls for an international law to criminalize insults to Islam.
tracey marie January 8th, 2015 at 7:04 pm
shame on you…in the past they had called for that law.
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 7:11 pm
And their response to the attack is to call for it again.
tracey marie January 8th, 2015 at 7:13 pm
you are now lying, shame on you
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 7:36 pm
Thats a lie.
tracey marie January 8th, 2015 at 7:38 pm
shame on you, I read 3 articles reuters being one and none said they called for it….they all mentioned “in the past” stop already
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 7:39 pm
I don’t believe you, shame on you.
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 7:09 pm
Reza Aslan: Radical Islam Is Still Islam
The popular author says we can’t reject ISIS as non-Muslim. What’s needed is a rigorous expression of religious peace.
http://www.faithstreet.com/onfaith/2014/09/30/reza-aslan-radical-islam-is-still-islam/34314?
tracey marie January 8th, 2015 at 7:11 pm
shame on you
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 7:12 pm
You didn’t read the link. Aslam is a popular defender of Islam.
tracey marie January 8th, 2015 at 7:13 pm
you are lying to push an agenda of hate, shame on you. I never thought I would see this from you. shame shame shame
Weebal January 8th, 2015 at 8:23 pm
Ahem… for someone who baldly lied to ridicule my position in a recent thread, I’d say you have a tremendous gall to write such a thing. I have mixed feelings about Jones’ perspective on this, but his citation supports it; and your assessment in that regard is worthless and wrong.
tracey marie January 8th, 2015 at 8:42 pm
rotflmao
tracey marie January 8th, 2015 at 7:17 pm
he distiguishes the diffrence between jihad and Islam, you do not. shame on you
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 7:27 pm
You didn’t read what he said in the link, obviously. Shame on you for making uninformed judgements.
tracey marie January 8th, 2015 at 7:27 pm
I did, shame on you
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 8:16 pm
You couldn’t have, You responded within seconds of me posting it. Shame on you.
tracey marie January 8th, 2015 at 8:44 pm
I did read it jones and you know I am correct, you hate islam, period. You are looking for sources to bolster your belief and then taking them out of context. Still waiting for your link of when the saudi’s called for the international law in the last couple days
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 8:02 pm
Even Reza Aslan would admit that jihad is an Islamic concept.
tracey marie January 8th, 2015 at 8:05 pm
that is not what he said
Jones January 8th, 2015 at 8:09 pm
You should ask him. I’am amazed you don’t know that Jihad is an Islamic concept. That explains a lot,
tracey marie January 8th, 2015 at 8:45 pm
Jihad has been changed and teisted from it’s original meaning.
Jones January 9th, 2015 at 2:05 am
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Jones January 9th, 2015 at 2:02 am
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