The Clinton Playbook
They benefit from the way their adversaries overplay their hands.
“Though members of Congress are calling for her to turn over the email server for forensic examination, they would be wise to proceed cautiously. A key page in the Clinton rule book is the one that reads: When in doubt, drive your enemies crazy—then sit back and watch them implode.”
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OldLefty March 12th, 2015 at 2:05 pm
Allow me to repeat;
Notice how often Jeb is referred as “Jeb Bush” and how often Hillary is referred to as “the Clintons”, even when the facts are completely the opposite ie; Jeb does something that is common to the Bushes, (Bushs?) and Hillary does something that is unique to Hillary.
trees March 12th, 2015 at 4:03 pm
That’s cause the bushes haven’t slept with each other, raised a child, or spent most nights together under the same roof, they haven’t corresponded with each other on a daily basis, nor have they plotted and schemed together for the length of time that Bill and Hillary have. Who do you suppose the “we” was, she was referring to the other day? Who do you think the administrator was? Probably the guy who claims to have only sent two emails his entire life.
OldLefty March 12th, 2015 at 4:53 pm
That’s cause the bushes haven’t slept with each other, raised…
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They are just children, grandchildren and siblings of each other and their influence in American and international politics goes back to Prescott, who are as Peter Schweizer called them, “the most successful political dynasty in American history”.
Was there a problem with;
On ABC’s
This Week, former Sec. of State Colin Powell admitted that he used a private
email account for public business. Powell’s explanation of why he used a
private email account amounted to a death blow for Republicans who are trying
to build a scandal out of Hillary Clinton’s emails.
POWELL: So
we put in place new systems, bought 44,000 computers and put a new Internet
capable computer on every single desk in every embassy, every office in the
State Department. And then I connected it with software.
But in order
to change the culture, to change the brainware, as I call it, I started using
it in order to get everybody to use it, so we could be a 21st century
institution and not a 19th century.
But I
retained none of those e-mails and we are working with the State Department to
see if there’s anything else they want to discuss with me about those e-mails.
EPHANOPOULOS:
So they want…
POWELL:
(INAUDIBLE) have a stack of them.
STEPHANOPOULOS:
— they’ve asked you to turn them over, but you don’t have them, is that it?
POWELL: I
don’t have any — I don’t have any to turn over. I did not keep a cache of them.
I did not print them off. I do not have thousands of pages somewhere in my
personal files.
And, in
fact, a lot of the e-mails that came out of my personal account went into the
State Department system. They were addressed to State Department employees and
the State.gov domain. But I don’t know if the servers the State Department
captured those or not.
And most —
they were all unclassified and most of them, I think, are pretty benign, so I’m
not terribly concerned even if they were able to recover them.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-secretary-state-colin-powell/story?id=29463658&page=2
?????
Or is it just because of years of anti-Clinton indoctrination by what David Frum called, the “Conservative Entertainment Complex, that has been ‘fleecing, exploiting and lying
to Republicans”??
Boehner-Monkey March 12th, 2015 at 5:29 pm
I don’t know.. Dubya did look a lot like that banjo player in Deliverance…
OldLefty March 12th, 2015 at 5:50 pm
Now, now.
trees March 12th, 2015 at 6:10 pm
“They did it too”, is not a defense. If you feel that there should have been investigations then, then you should feel investigations now, are likewise warranted.
OldLefty March 13th, 2015 at 6:26 am
“They did it too”, is not a defense.
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Nobody said it is.
My claim is that none of them require a defense.
bahlers March 13th, 2015 at 5:09 am
No, you are wrong. If ANYONE involved in ANY admin violates the law they deserve to be impeached, and put on trial to face the maximum penalty allowed under the law.
OldLefty March 13th, 2015 at 6:25 am
It doesn’t work that way in the real world.
Weather it should or not doesn’t matter.
bahlers March 13th, 2015 at 6:34 am
Well, maybe it’s time to make the real world real and not fantasy. I understand that in the private sector it’s not that feasible (oh wait it is). The moral and ethical members of Congress (do we have any left?) should be on the lookout for stuff like this and start an investigation, at the very minimum, before the person leaves office. Why did it take years before anyone publicly released this info? I thought this was supposed to be the most transparent admin in history? And Obama’s statement that he first heard about this from the major news networks, is laughable, it really is. Clinton is the only one emailing him from a non-state department email, all the while she is preaching to the entire department to use State email. Her campaign is going down in flames, everyone grab some smores.
OldLefty March 13th, 2015 at 6:39 am
That doesn’t account for the people.
Would the People have appreciated impeaching Reagan?
Bush?
Perhaps if they had impeached Reagan, Bush/Cheney would not have dared do half of what they did.
Obama and the emails??
I doubt it was relevant enough for him to notice.
So far, this is nothing but an inside the beltway circus.
bahlers March 13th, 2015 at 6:55 am
I’m only 23, so you’ll know much more about Reagan then me lol. As for Bush, I have read awhile back (must have been months ago on some Facebook news site, blah blah blah) that ISIS has/had found some of Sadam’s old chemical weapons, only they weren’t so old. It’s a far cry to find some law that you can prosecute the president under considering all of Congress and the Senate approved of both wars. Not saying what was done or how it was done was right or wrong, but it is much more subjective then the head of the state department having all of her official emails conducted through a private email account. I’m not saying she broke the law here, as I’m no attorney. But I would imagine that there’s an attorney out there that would be willing to take the Clinton case to trial over the Reagan/Bush Jr. cases of they both paid the same.
OldLefty March 13th, 2015 at 7:37 am
That wmd has been debunked.. by 2003
the shells and rockets were so old and damaged that they could not be used as
designed. The Times report makes it abundantly clear that these were not
the WMDs the Bush.
The Prosecution would come from the “stovepiping and cherry picking evidence for a plan to invade Iraq in the 1990’s.
See PNAC’s Rebuilding Americas Defenses
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
And the letter to Clinton in 1998 asking HIM to invade Iraq;
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5527.htm
The Downing Street memo.
The forged Niger uranium documents.
The Al Qa Quaa munitions dump scandal.
The secret black sites.
I have no problem with Colin, Hillary or Condi.
Pioneer Groundbreaker:
Spy Agency Sought U.S. Call Records Before 9/11, Lawyers Say
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=abIV0cO64zJE
The ACTUAL IRS scandals where they actually threatened groups, causing them to incur legal fees, because they oppose the White House’s policies, threatening to fire the Medicare Actuary if he went public with full cost of Medicare Part D…
Dwendt44 March 12th, 2015 at 2:12 pm
The server is her husbands and the House committee doesn’t have the authority to subpoena it besides. Of course the rabid right always assumes that the Clinton’s or Obama is hiding something, something that they can use to smear them with. That there is nothing there hasn’t stopped Limpball or insHannity and the rest from making crap up.
trees March 12th, 2015 at 3:55 pm
Makes about as much sense as saying, “that’s not my money, it’s my husbands”, as a dodge from the IRS. That server was used by Hillary as the sole means of email during her stint as the Secretary of State. If others were using that same server, all the more reason to see the scope of the security breaches and the possible hacking that happened……
Dwendt44 March 12th, 2015 at 4:18 pm
What security breaches? the one you heard about on FakeNews or the ones you pulled out of your butt?
The person owning the server matters to those obsessed with getting their ignorant hands on it in their quest to find something they can use to smear Hilary with. IF you ever find a woman who could put up with you, I’d bet the farm that her car would be in her name (assuming she’s got a brain at all). That matters to the legalities.
trees March 12th, 2015 at 4:45 pm
The security breaches that surely could have occurred if others had access to the server….. You see, we need to know what might have happened, and the way you find out what might have happened is by examining the server. I know, I know, you would prefer to say that “nothing happened, trust me”, but that’s not how it works…. If something could have happened, regarding national secrecy, then we need to determine if it happened….
You see, those are the consequences when, as Secretary of State, you choose to have your own server and security protocols.
OldLefty March 12th, 2015 at 5:12 pm
Not like Target, Sony, Chinese Compromise of U.S. Weapons Systems, Stuxnet, The PlayStation Network Hack, TJ Maxx, Wikileaks….
In other words, as secure as Powell’s and Condi’s.
Oh, that’s right. Nobody knew or cared.
bahlers March 13th, 2015 at 5:04 am
Is the article you are referencing?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/03/12/hackers-probing-clinton-server-cite-security-lapses/
bahlers March 13th, 2015 at 5:12 am
She’s smearing herself on this one.
Boehner-Monkey March 12th, 2015 at 5:15 pm
At this point Hillary could be revealed as a Zorgulon and she would still win.
bahlers March 13th, 2015 at 5:02 am
You really think that she is going to run? I’ve believed since last summer that she wasn’t even going to try and run. This article seems like a real nail in the coffin to me.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/03/12/hackers-probing-clinton-server-cite-security-lapses/
AAASuperPatriot March 13th, 2015 at 12:05 am
It’s only a matter of time until the right wingers start bringing up Vince Foster again.
bahlers March 13th, 2015 at 5:01 am
This is why I personally trust Fox more then any other mainstream news source.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/03/12/hackers-probing-clinton-server-cite-security-lapses/