Satanic Group Wants To Put Holiday Display In Florida’s Capitol Rotunda
If the state is to stay religion-neutral and still permit religions to put displays on public property, they can’t deny those who worship Satan.
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The Broward-Palm Beach New Times reports that the Florida Department of Management Services banned the Satanic Temple’s holiday display last year because they deemed it “grossly offensive for the holidays.”
Americans United for Separation of Church and State sent a letter to state officials this week telling them they cannot ban the Satanic group from putting up the display.
“Given the manner in which the Department of Management Services rejected the Satanic Temple’s application last year, we remind the Department of its obligations under the First and Fourteenth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution,” theletter reads. “The Department may not, as it did last year, reject the Satanic Temple’s display – even if the Department finds the display to be ‘offensive.’”…
According to the New Times, the Satanic Temple was originally granted a space in the Capitol rotunda to display Lucifer falling from heaven into hell with a Bible verse on the side. The display read, “Happy Holidays from the Satanic Temple.”[su_csky_ad]
R.J. Carter October 17th, 2014 at 2:00 pm
Do the Satanists worship Christ? Do they celebrate His birth as Christmas? If not, their display is not a holiday display, it’s attention seeking. They can come with their own holidays on their own holidays and put up displays for them, just as Jewish folks can come with Menorahs for Hanukkah and Muslims can with their symbols for Eid.
Larry Schmitt October 17th, 2014 at 2:24 pm
I don’t know that there are any holidays related to Satanism. What is Lucifer’s birthday? Maybe they could use Hitler’s, as everyone seems to consider him a devil.
Dwendt44 October 17th, 2014 at 3:17 pm
Except Hilter was a good christian.
Larry Schmitt October 17th, 2014 at 4:27 pm
Yeah, well, so is Bill O’Reilly. Shows how much that means.
R.J. Carter October 17th, 2014 at 4:31 pm
Proof once again that if I tell people I’m a cat, there’s a point where reality and my statement conflict.
bpollen October 18th, 2014 at 3:12 am
But if we put you in Schrödinger’s box, wouldn’t you be in some indeterminate feline/human state? Manimal, if you will…
R.J. Carter October 18th, 2014 at 11:22 am
As long as I closed my eyes and did not self-observe. 🙂
bpollen October 18th, 2014 at 6:43 pm
You pinpointed my problem with the Schrödinger’s cat thought experiment. For the observer, there might be some doubt about the cat’s state, but the cat would be unlikely to be confused about whether it’s dead or not.
M D Reese October 17th, 2014 at 3:42 pm
Satanism does not mean devil worshiper or even a belief in satan.
Larry Schmitt October 17th, 2014 at 4:26 pm
From Wikipedia: “Satanist groups that appeared after the 1960s are widely diverse, but two major trends are theistic Satanism and atheistic Satanism. Theistic Satanists venerate Satan as a supernatural deity, viewing him not as omnipotent but rather as a patriarch. In contrast, atheistic Satanists regard Satan as merely a symbol of certain human traits.”
M D Reese October 17th, 2014 at 7:25 pm
That’s my point. Here’s one of the groups that is political:
http://thesatanictemple.com/
Bunya October 17th, 2014 at 2:35 pm
If you’ll notice, their sign says “Happy Holidays”. Maybe they celebrate the winter solstice which occurs between December 20-23.
R.J. Carter October 17th, 2014 at 2:46 pm
Too true. Wording matters. Perhaps they might consider being less generic and stop trying to submit a “Christmas” display and rather put in a solstice display? (Do the Satanists revere the solstice for any reason? Isn’t that Wiccans, and would’t they be upset to be paired with Satanists?)
Larry Schmitt October 17th, 2014 at 2:49 pm
And Druids too, I believe, if there are any left.
Dwendt44 October 17th, 2014 at 3:17 pm
Pagans in general view the Solstice as very important. That’s why the early church co-opted that festival/holiday in the first place.
M D Reese October 17th, 2014 at 3:45 pm
There is no one overall version of satanism. Some believe in the supernatural, and some do not. Similarly, Wicca does not mean witchcraft and black magic.
linann.singh@yahoo.com October 17th, 2014 at 4:08 pm
Wiccans could care less who celebrate the Winter Solstice. What pisses a Witch off is when Christians call us devil worshipers. . I don’t think it’s a Christmas or Solstice display. It looks like this group just wants to wish everyone a happy holiday.
M D Reese October 17th, 2014 at 3:46 pm
Or maybe they’re just being polite to others. There are lots of holiday celebrations over the winter.
tracey marie October 17th, 2014 at 2:39 pm
neither is christmas, it is a pagan holiday nothing more. Everyone is equal under the law, period.
R.J. Carter October 17th, 2014 at 2:45 pm
I agree. So a “Happy Eid” display from the Southern Baptists — done in accordance with their teachings — would not be divisive or unwelcome?
ColtsFan254 October 17th, 2014 at 2:48 pm
Everyone is equal under the law, but all beliefs and actions are not.
M D Reese October 17th, 2014 at 3:50 pm
They’re not treated equally, which is unconstitutional. My rights as an atheist cannot be infringed by some wackadoodle’s supernatural fantasies under the law–but they are.
tracey marie October 17th, 2014 at 4:36 pm
then all religions should be banned from public displays
M D Reese October 17th, 2014 at 3:48 pm
The christian displays are the epitome of “attention seeking”. They say “Look at us! Our religion is sanctioned by the state, and yours is not! Neener neener!”
OldLefty October 17th, 2014 at 3:49 pm
just as Jewish folks can come with Menorahs for Hanukkah and Muslims can with their symbols for Eid.
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Not with taxpayer money.
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Rusty Shackleford October 17th, 2014 at 5:08 pm
Holidays aren’t always celebrating happy things. Memorial Day, anyone? The birth of Christ is a big deal to anyone who believes in the existence of the Abrahamic God, so Christmas is a big deal whether they like Jesus or not.
tracey marie October 17th, 2014 at 5:12 pm
why do they start celebrating in October, I can’t stand to be in a retail store for 3 months. Kinda blows the whole religous thing or the phony war on xmas
Rusty Shackleford October 17th, 2014 at 5:14 pm
Those bastards. How dare they steal October from Halloween. Did they learn nothing from The Nightmare Before Christmas?!
tracey marie October 17th, 2014 at 5:16 pm
good one.
bpollen October 18th, 2014 at 3:05 am
Christmas is the supposed celebration of Christ’s birth, but Christ was not born on December 25 according to biblical scholars. As was common in the early Christian church, the holidays were frequently meant to usurp holidays of local culture. The winter solstice has been worshiped since time immemorial, and at the time of Christ’s putative birth, the Romans celebrated Saturnalia on the 17th of December and some pagans celebrated Yule a few days later. On Dec. 25, the Romans celebrated natalis solis invicti, the birth of the invincible sun, and Mithras celebrated his birthday. Easter, similarly, was a pagan holiday before Christianity (Easter is in fact the name of an Anglo-Saxon goddess of spring) and was celebrated in April (which they called “Eostur-monath”) and was co-opted by the early Christian church. Hell, even St. Valentine’s day was a Roman celebration of Lupercus on the evening of the 14 Feb into 15 Feb…
To claim that NOBODY has any business putting up a holiday display during December is wrong on the law and the history. And I am pretty sure that the Satanists didn’t say they were putting up a “Christmas” display, they are putting up a “holiday” display. Hell, even when they were turned down last year, they were turned down because it was “grossly offensive for the holidays.” Note the “s” at the end there… clearly indicating there are OTHER holidays celebrated.
While it might “offend” you that they wish to put up the display, the First Amendment is not limited by your approval.
ColtsFan254 October 17th, 2014 at 2:46 pm
Of course this article has badly told the history and legal realities of the US. Governments in the US have never been ‘religion-neutral’ nor are they legally compelled to be so. And by governments I mean both the federal government and state governments which of course are different and operate under different sets of bounds.
The US Constitution (not Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptists) is the legal foundation of our nations legal system. It very clearly prohibits the US Congress from passing laws establishing an official US religion. This was in response to the English system in which the King was both head of the Church of England and the ‘secular’ government. The US was set up to be different. It doesn’t mean that the US government doesn’t retain the right to favour one set of beliefs over another.
Add to that the the first Amendment and the establishing of a state religion applies to Congress and the federal government. Several states, including Massachusetts had official state religions up into the 1800s. This means that there is great legal precedent not only for states to support a religion over another, but even to have an official religion.
Florida doesn’t need to go so far as to have an official state religion, and I am not advocating that. But Florida, and her elected officials certainly have a legal right to favour one religion over another and to deem the content of any religion or groups of religions as offensive and can limit their public or governmental support.
Dwendt44 October 17th, 2014 at 3:14 pm
You really need to read something other than the religious right propaganda you’re spewing. The Constitution is a secular one and that means not favoring one religion over another or favoring religion over non religion. That is the principle behind the !st Amendment and the whole idea of Separation of Church and State.
The amendment process resulted in applying those same restrictions on the states.
ColtsFan254 October 17th, 2014 at 3:21 pm
Please show me where what I said was right wing propaganda? I was educated in history at The University of Texas, not a particularly right wing place. I am just speaking to the actual language of the US Constitution. Where does the US Constitution say that one religion can’t be favoured over another? I don’t see that in the text, nor in any of the documents surrounding the formation of the US Constitution as it was crafted to replace the Articles of Confederation. Of course the US Constitution has authourity. I don’t think that is disputed. But the US Constitution gives certain rights to the federal government and all other rights are retained by the states, including the right to have an official religion, much less to favour one religion over another.
OldLefty October 17th, 2014 at 3:49 pm
Where does the US Constitution say that one religion can’t be favoured over another?
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Favored by whom?
Dwendt44 October 18th, 2014 at 12:59 am
Supreme Court decisions over the years have set down the rules (at least until recently). and SC decisions are considered the law of the land. And treaties are also laws of the land and one of the earliest ones says explicitly that this country was NOT based on the christian religion.
M D Reese October 17th, 2014 at 3:52 pm
It is in the First Amendment. Congress shall make no law respecting a religion, or disrespecting a religion. The laws are to remain neutral regarding religion.
Spirit of America October 17th, 2014 at 6:14 pm
Notice you typed:
“Congress shall make…”
Doesn’t mention states, just u.s. congress.
M D Reese October 17th, 2014 at 7:18 pm
I notice that you aren’t aware that federal law trumps state law. the separation of church and state is the rule of law in every single state.
Dwendt44 October 17th, 2014 at 7:48 pm
Bit ti mention that the amendments apply Constitution rules and prohibitions on the states, the counties, and the cities and villages as well.
M D Reese October 17th, 2014 at 8:24 pm
Every square inch. Our civil rights do not vary state by state, county by county and so on and so forth. I wish people would get it.
Spirit of America October 18th, 2014 at 10:29 am
That’s true, but it doesn’t say states can’t, and it states if not mentioned as a power, it belongs to the states… it’s not so cut and dry.
M D Reese October 18th, 2014 at 2:06 pm
So citizens in your state can vote away your right to free speech? Wow.
tracey marie October 17th, 2014 at 5:10 pm
if you favor a religion and you are the government you are establishing a theocracy
ColtsFan254 October 18th, 2014 at 12:11 am
I would submit there is a long continuum between favouring a religion or even certain religions and getting to the idea of theocracy. I think that we are a long way from the state of Florida operating under the idea that the governor and legislature and judicial systems all are teaching, upholding, and passing laws based on a particular religion’s doctrines. We are talking about having a holiday display right? They don’t seem to be the same things to me.
cecilia October 18th, 2014 at 10:23 pm
you say that but the second a bunch of Muslims want THEIR religion getting preference you Christians will have aneurysms.
Little Liberal Larry October 17th, 2014 at 2:52 pm
The gods…all the gods…they are irrelevant
ColtsFan254 October 17th, 2014 at 2:53 pm
The landscape of the world and the violence contained therein would beg to differ. On the other side of that equation the profound beauty of love and relationship would beg to differ as well.
bpollen October 17th, 2014 at 4:31 pm
How does violence or beauty in any way address the relevance of a god?
Kick Frenzy October 17th, 2014 at 6:27 pm
The point, I believe, is that violence addresses the relevance of a god(s) because it’s the worship of a god(s) that are responsible for the majority of violence in human history.
While beauty addresses the irrelevance of gods in that they are not needed to point out beauty or how to treat someone else with decency.
bpollen October 18th, 2014 at 3:28 am
I think that in the case of violence in the name of a god, god is just the justification (excuse) for doing the sick sh*t that you want to do anyway. I don’t find excuses particularly relevant or pertinent… and like sphincters, they all stink.
Carla Akins October 17th, 2014 at 2:54 pm
There’s a gal in my secret Facebook group that’s friends with Lucien Greaves – the head Satanist guy. They do not worship the devil or perform sacrifices. Both she and Greaves are experts in, and spend a lot of time dispelling misinformation about repressed/recovered memory in legal cases. The group actually does a lot of good work.
Here’s their mission statement:
The Stanic Temple facilitates the communication and mobilization of politically aware Satanists, secularists and advocates for individual liberty.
The mission of The Satanic Temple is to encourage benevolence and empathy among all people. In addition, we embrace practical common sense and justice.
As an organized religion, we feel it is our function to actively provide outreach, to lead by example, and to participate in public affairs wheresoever the issues might benefit from rational, Satanic insights. As Satanists, we all should be guided by our consciences to undertake noble pursuits guided by our individual wills. We believe that this is the hope of all mankind and the highest aspiration of humanity.
ColtsFan254 October 17th, 2014 at 3:15 pm
Why do they use the term ‘satanist’ if they do not worship Satan? I am just curious about that.
Carla Akins October 17th, 2014 at 3:41 pm
Back in the 80’s & 90’s there was a rash of claims of Satan worshipping and all the atrocities one would associate with the layman’s understanding, most of them associated with “recovered” memories. Except none of it was true – ever. There were no cases of any children ever being assaulted in a Satanic ritual. Somehow this ended up being Greaves fault and those wanting to believe, (like the McMartin trial) decided Greaves himself must worship Satan. He started as an atheist activist but was repeatedly accused of worshipping Satan by overzealous fundamentalists.
After a number of years, he decided to use to his advantage. It’s shocking, it gets attention and provides a legal structure he couldn’t secure as your basic do-gooder.
ColtsFan254 October 18th, 2014 at 12:09 am
Thank you for the history lesson. I am ignorant of all of it, so that helps me a great deal. It is hard for me to see doing good, with doing good under the guise or name of Satan. I would guess as really an atheist group, they don’t believe that there is a real entity named Satan, but even if they don’t, seems a negative concept or idea to do good under. I hope that makes sense.
Dwendt44 October 18th, 2014 at 12:55 am
Christians have long been taught that Atheists are the most evil of people and should be avoided at best and tortured and killed at worst.
Rusty Shackleford October 17th, 2014 at 5:04 pm
It’s largely a counter-culture movement. Use the big scary bogeyman name to send powerful symbolic messages, and use the metric crapload of protections afforded to religions to one’s advantage.
tracey marie October 17th, 2014 at 5:08 pm
you guys have the best quarterback
Spirit of America October 17th, 2014 at 6:19 pm
” displays on public property, they can’t deny those who worship Satan…”
Let them put up their display on their holiday, the christians put up displays on their holidays, same for buddists, hindus, muslims, etc.
Kick Frenzy October 17th, 2014 at 6:21 pm
So, Christian displays for Christmas would only be allowed on December 25th?
And what about when holidays overlap, do they all get to display at the same time?
Spirit of America October 17th, 2014 at 6:25 pm
“So, Christian displays for Christmas would only be allowed on December 25th?”
No, but neither does it need to be up starting in june, or oct…
“And what about when holidays overlap, do they all get to display at the same time?”
Sure, why not?
Kick Frenzy October 17th, 2014 at 6:40 pm
I was trying to get a handle on the parameters of what you suggested about setting up displays.
Of course, this also means we should probably allow for additional official holidays for every religion practiced in the USA. I mean, if Christmas is an official holiday with time off of work, school closed and some businesses closed… the same would have to be applied to other religious holidays for them to adhere to the idea of only being able to set up holiday displays on there specific holidays.
It also means, going by Christmas being allowed to be celebrated on more than one day, that every other holiday would get multiple days… which means they all overlap.
And now we’re back to why we just have a “holiday season”, including dates for celebratory displays,instead of a separate one for each and every holiday.
Spirit of America October 17th, 2014 at 7:13 pm
And I have no problem with that, either. I do have a problem w/making up a ‘holiday’ just to be able to put up a display on someone else’s holiday… that’s just butting in.
tracey marie October 17th, 2014 at 7:15 pm
all religions are made up
Dwendt44 October 17th, 2014 at 7:44 pm
But Saturnalia sounds like a lot more fun than the traditional christmas events.
tracey marie October 17th, 2014 at 7:49 pm
I would rather drink and eat heartily, run naked through the woods in the moonlight then hear about this god person who will either send me to a fiery pit or into the clouds with him and his feathered guy friends
Spirit of America October 17th, 2014 at 8:00 pm
And I’m sure some would prefer to watch you do just that…
(wink)
tracey marie October 17th, 2014 at 8:01 pm
I look good naked 🙂
Spirit of America October 17th, 2014 at 9:27 pm
LOL, good attitude!
tracey marie October 17th, 2014 at 9:33 pm
fact 🙂
Spirit of America October 17th, 2014 at 9:48 pm
I used to say the same thing:
I look good naked.
then after some years, I shortened it to:
I look good
then after a few more years, I just say:
I look
🙂
tracey marie October 17th, 2014 at 10:31 pm
that was funny, I work out everyday and I am very active …plus genetics
Spirit of America October 17th, 2014 at 7:44 pm
Of course they are, religion is the How, not the What.
Kick Frenzy October 17th, 2014 at 7:17 pm
While I’ll admit it’s probably mostly meant to make a point, saying “Happy Holidays” is a common phrase used by people in general.
Putting up displays that celebrate the holiday season is also common, regardless of religious affiliation.
Although, going by your interpretation, we should probably discontinue allowing Christians to use Christmas and Easter dates for their holidays, since they were both originally pagan holidays (both dates and traditions, even some story elements).
Dwendt44 October 17th, 2014 at 7:43 pm
Not to mention much of what is displayed and/or celebrated on christmas is forbidden by the bible christians claim to follow and obey. Christmas decorations are nearly all Pagan. The christmas tree is expressly forbidden. As is holly, and pine bows, etc.
Spirit of America October 17th, 2014 at 7:46 pm
Yea, you’re right, something that’s been around for over 1700 years is the same as something just made up to be obnoxious…
Which holiday was Christmas originally?
Dwendt44 October 18th, 2014 at 12:52 am
Read up on Saturnalia. Most of ‘our’ traditions associated with christmas originated there, and northern Europe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia
tracey marie October 17th, 2014 at 7:14 pm
the christians stole a pagan holiday and created a religion/cult around it.
Spirit of America October 17th, 2014 at 7:43 pm
Which pagan holiday?
tracey marie October 17th, 2014 at 7:50 pm
winter solstice for one, and it’s equivelent all over the world
Spirit of America October 17th, 2014 at 7:58 pm
Interesting since the solstice is the 21st or 22nd…
tracey marie October 17th, 2014 at 8:01 pm
and is celebrated for 10 days
Spirit of America October 17th, 2014 at 8:06 pm
So every holiday that falls w/in those 10 days are actually ‘stolen’ holidays? And are you sure the dec 25 has nothing to do w/march 25th?
Dwendt44 October 18th, 2014 at 12:46 am
Pagans celebrated all four seasonal events. (if that’s the right word).
The Solstices and the Equinoxs.
It’s doubtful if even jesus knew when he was born. They are guessing at best even the spring date.
Back then your birth date wasn’t important. The lack of a calender was the large part of that.
Spirit of America October 18th, 2014 at 3:02 am
True enough about the guessing.
bpollen October 19th, 2014 at 5:38 am
Mithras had his birthday on December 25th contemporaneously with Christ’s supposed birth, so it was already a known holiday when the early christian church chose December 25. Also, the Romans supposedly celebrated Sol Invictus on 25 December.
Winter celebrations occurred in almost every culture, and even pre-date christianity, so the “holiday season” is in no way an exclusively christian time of year. Even the bible itself indicates that December is extremely unlikely to have been when Yeshua bar Yosef was born, so any christian claim to the winter holiday season is tenuous at best.
Spirit of America October 19th, 2014 at 6:07 am
So a few things… it appears as though it may not have ‘usurped’ any one particular holiday, others may have already ‘usurped’ making it an established practice, and most(as do I) agree the odds of dec 25 being the actual birthday are very long so why not ‘pile on’ to an already festive season? Or, does Mar 25th have something to do with it?
“so any christian claim to the winter holiday season is tenuous at best”
Only if the claim is ‘proprietary’ or argued “christmas was first & should be soley” that season, which I’m not, can’t talk for others.
bpollen October 19th, 2014 at 7:14 am
“Let them put up their display on their holiday”
Sounds like you are claiming a proprietary interest in the winter holiday season to me. As has been pointed out, many cultures have celebrations in December and the Xmas decorations don’t just show up on the morning of the 25th. So, the winter holiday season IS their holiday in many many instances.
I’m not offended that christians chose a common celebratory time for a major holiday, partly because I think this is not a surprising thing for a religion to do, and partly because I don’t really give a shi….pbuilder. As far as I am concerned, the more the merrier.
“But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.”
-Thomas Jefferson
-Thomas Jefferson
Spirit of America October 19th, 2014 at 7:26 am
“Sounds like you are claiming a proprietary interest in the winter holiday season to me.”
Then you may have missed me saying let them all put up their displays on their holidays.
bpollen October 19th, 2014 at 3:52 pm
You may have missed that I freakin’ quoted you saying “let them put up their display on THEIR holiday.” You didn’t, however, say “let them put up a display whenever they want” or “let them put up their display right alongside the other holiday displays on public property.” Saying “their holiday” would certainly indicate that you don’t want them putting up displays on “your” holiday. Especially when you followed the “their holiday” statement by listing other religions who should put up displays for “their” holidays.
Had you said ‘the holidays,” instead of “their holidays,” it might have seemed that you were being inclusive. “Their,” however, is a form of the possessive case. Which is exclusionary.
My holidays, if I had my own holidays, would be inclusive. I would want to celebrate with people of any faith or culture. Hell, I wasn’t even tempted to give back my Raksha Bandhan gift (and I’m not even from India!)
Spirit of America October 19th, 2014 at 7:11 pm
LOL, Of course on ‘their’ holiday, why would anyone want to put up a holiday display on the wrong holiday, or one that doesn’t denote their holiday?
So every holiday, regardless of whose, every faith should be able to put up a display??!!
Say ‘satanists’ have a holiday june 1st… should the christians demand to put up a nativity then as well? My view is that is just plan silly, not to mention a bit on the cry-baby side….
bpollen October 19th, 2014 at 9:55 pm
If you want to celebrate Pentecost a few days early, or St. Columba of Iona day early, or the jewish holiday of Shavuot a little early, or a late celebration of the ascension (of Jesus or Baha’ullah,) it wouldn’t put my nose out of joint at all. And, though I am not their spokesman, I would venture to say that the satanists wouldn’t bitch either.
Ultimately, though, there should either be NO religious holiday displays on ANY public property, or else you gotta make enough room for the whole class… Timmy should be able to put up his Darth Vader holiday display, and Mary should be able to put up her My Little Pony Holiday display, and don’t forget Billy’s Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles display!
Spirit of America October 20th, 2014 at 4:05 am
But do not the ‘religious’ own the property as much as anyone else? If no ‘religious’ displays, then no political, or social, etc NO displays.
It is called going overboard and/or a lack of common sense.
To me it is fairly simple(on this article)… it’s petty.
bpollen October 20th, 2014 at 4:08 pm
“But do not the ‘religious’ own the property as much as anyone else?”
Yes, they do. So, either you accommodate ALL religions, or you accommodate none. Is that petty? Strikes me as being fair. What’s petty is excluding ANY faith.
It sounds like you are saying that if christians can’t put up their My Little Jesus and His Mysterymobile display exclusively, then you can’t have a sign on public property that says “free flu shots” (social) or “VOTE” (political.) As they say on Sesame Street, one of these things is not like the other. Now if those signs said “free flu shots for white people” or “vote republican,” then maybe you might have a leg to stand on in trying to equate social functions, political functions, and religion.
But you have one point that I agree with: denying any religion the right to put up a holiday display is petty.
Spirit of America October 20th, 2014 at 5:32 pm
” So, either you accommodate ALL religions, or you accommodate none.”
I already said that, that I had no problem w/satanists putting up displays on their holidays. I think we’re on same page w/this part.
“It sounds like you are saying that if christians can’t put up their My Little Jesus and His Mysterymobile display exclusively,”
Never said exclusively, I said if no religion can put up(as some suggested), then no social, no political, etc.
Again, I think we’re on same page. We may have a presumed ‘disagreement’ merely because of poor wording on my part?
whatthe46 October 18th, 2014 at 3:45 am
amazing. this upsets people. but a billboard in Albuquerque… “Anti-Abortion Group Think
Gory Pics of Dismembered Fetuses are a Learning Tool for Kids” but its not being taken down. disgusting. and its nearby an elementary school.
mmaynard119 October 18th, 2014 at 8:25 am
No need. There are already pictures of Tricky Rick Scott in the rotunda.