Meet Those Who Killed For Christ
[su_right_ad]President Obama was historically accurate when he said that Christians have killed in the name of Christ just as Muslims have done in the name of Islam. David Ferguson runs down the barbarism.
The Fourth Crusade
The mostly French holy soldiers of the Fourth Crusade sought a quicker passage, by boat to Egypt, and the independent state of Venice offered to lend 200 boats to make it happen. But Venice had a condition — help us retake the city of Zara from Hungarian invaders. So before they could leave for Egypt, the crusaders attacked Zara — a Christian city — to conquer it for Venice. With that dirty work out of the way, they set sail for Constantinople and did the unthinkable, sacking the largest, most sophisticated city in Christendom on the promise of cash offered by a pretender to the city’s throne. Sated with blood and gold, the crusaders headed home after defeating Constantinople, and never even got to the Holy Land. Praise the Lord!
[su_r_sky_ad]The Holocaust
Jews were persecuted and ghettoized for centuries in Europe. During World War II, a staunchly Christian Adolf Hitler proposed the notorious “Final Solution” as his armies rounded up and exterminated some 6 million Jews over the course of the Nazi Party’s rise and precipitous fall.
…the Nazis were staunchly Christian and relied heavily on the anti-Semitic theories and writings of Martin Luther, founder of the Protestant church…
The Ku Klux Klan
America’s earliest home-grown white nationalist militia rooted their pro-segregation philosophy and anti-black and anti-Jew violence in the belief that they were enforcing God’s law on behalf of the chosen people, the white race.
To this day, Klansmen and women will cheerfully assure you that they are good, law-abiding Christians who are acting out of defense of what they see as a beleaguered white population…
Eric Rudolph
In 1997, Christian terrorist Eric Robert Rudol[ph] planted and detonated a homemade bomb at the Atlanta LGBT bar the Otherside Lounge. Four people were injured. A second bomb failed to detonate…
Abortion
So-called “pro-life” organizations have become some of the most dangerous and violent religious zealots in the U.S. today. It is hard to isolate any single incident because over the last two decades, groups like Operation Rescue have set fire to women’s health centers, murdered doctors like Kansas’ Dr. George Tiller in cold blood, and gunned down clinic workers, nurses and bystanders.
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Dwendt44 February 9th, 2015 at 12:06 pm
Republicans aren’t interested in facts.
tiredoftea February 9th, 2015 at 12:10 pm
Well, that’s awkward!
Suzanne McFly February 9th, 2015 at 12:13 pm
Oops.
Pilotshark February 9th, 2015 at 12:19 pm
gee and to think the number three in the house is or has been part of those jew loving klans, wonder how Israel feels about that with BiBI coming to have a chat.
Mike February 9th, 2015 at 2:51 pm
Like Bibi cares where the $2 billion comes from…he’d pimp his mother for a bomb.
Red Eye Robot February 9th, 2015 at 12:46 pm
Evans wrote that Hitler repeatedly stated that Nazism was a secular ideology founded on science, which in the long run could not “co-exist with religion” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
Hirightnow February 9th, 2015 at 1:00 pm
“Thus inwardly armed with confidence in God and the unshakable stupidity
of the voting citizenry, the politicians can begin the fight for the
‘remaking’ of the Reich as they call it.
”
– Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Chapter 1
“We don’t ask the Almighty, ‘Lord, make us free!” We want to be active, to work, to work together, so that when the hour comes that we appear before the Lord we can say to him: ‘Lord, you see that we have changed.’ The German people is no longer a people of dishonor and shame, of self-destructiveness and cowardice. No, Lord, the German people is once more strong in spirit, strong in determination, strong in the willingness to bear every sacrifice. Lord, now bless our battle and our freedom, and therefore our German people and fatherland.”
– Adolf Hitler, Prayer, May 1, 1933
“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.”
– Adolf Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936
No way out February 9th, 2015 at 4:18 pm
Case closed
John Tarter February 9th, 2015 at 5:14 pm
He was doing the work of the devil. Most people were able to discern that, why can’t you?
Bunya February 9th, 2015 at 5:26 pm
It depends on what you consider the “work of the devil”. The fine Christians who bombed clinics and killed doctors say they were “saving babies”. Hell, one of the murderers, Paul Hill, was a minister, for God’s sake!
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And just in case you’ve missed it above …..
“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.”
– Adolf Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936
Dwendt44 February 10th, 2015 at 1:00 pm
Especially relevant as the Third Reich outlawed abortion, making it a capital offense.
OldLefty February 9th, 2015 at 5:46 pm
Now, you see the point of many Muslims.
Mike February 9th, 2015 at 8:15 pm
He can’t see it cuz…Obama’s a Muzzy
No way out February 9th, 2015 at 11:32 pm
Sorry…So you’re suggesting Christ is the devil?
Mike February 9th, 2015 at 2:50 pm
Nice cherry picking…but it’s pretty much common knowledge (5th graders at least) that Nazi’s were Christians believing they were supporting the will of god…ever hear their slogan “Mitt uns Gott” it was plastered on nearly everything they had.
NW10 February 9th, 2015 at 12:54 pm
You left out Tim McVeigh, who claimed he was acting out of Christianity.
Larry Schmitt February 9th, 2015 at 3:01 pm
I guarantee you in some future text book in Texas, it will say his name was Mohammed, and he was a Muslim.
Bunya February 9th, 2015 at 3:34 pm
…and Dubya’s assertion that God wanted him to end the tyranny in Iraq. Of course, access to all that oil was God’s little added bonus.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa
tracey marie February 9th, 2015 at 3:55 pm
great article
No way out February 9th, 2015 at 4:17 pm
Yep. This from a Catholic.
John Tarter February 9th, 2015 at 5:13 pm
A staunchly Christian Adolf Hitler? Come on Alan, where do you get this garbage? Hitler was not by any means a practicing Christian. He was not a Lutheran a Catholic, or a member of any other Christian sect, nor did not attend any Christian worship services on a regular basis. Putting Christian people in concentration camps and killing them was as close to being a Christian as he ever got.
arc99 February 9th, 2015 at 5:32 pm
The President is not a Muslim but that has not prevented right wingers from claiming otherwise for six blasted years.
Clean up your own side of the aisle before you presume to lecture anyone about accurate reporting of religious practices.
OldLefty February 9th, 2015 at 5:44 pm
~ “I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain
so” — Adolf Hitler
~ “The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own
denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God’s will,
and actually fulfill God’s will, and not let God’s word be desecrated. For
God’s will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who
destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord’s creation, the divine will.”
( Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf,
~ “Imbued with the desire to secure for the German people the great religious, moral, and cultural values rooted in the two Christian Confessions, we have abolished the political organizations but
strengthened the religious institutions.”
( Adolf Hitler, in a speech at
Reichstag, Berlin, January 30, 1934. )
~
I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty
Creator.”
[Adolph Hitler, _Mein
Kampf_, pp. 46]
~ “This human world of ours would be inconceivable without the practical existence of a religious belief.”
[Adolph Hitler, _Mein
Kampf_, pp.152]
~ “What we have to fight for…is
the freedom and independence
of the fatherland, so that our
people may be enabled to fulfill
the mission assigned to it by the
Creator.”
[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 125]
~ “It may be that today gold has become the exclusive ruler of life, but the time will come when man will
again bow down before a higher god.”
[Adolph Hitler, “Mein Kampf” Vol. 2 Chapter 2]
~ “….the personification of the
devil as the symbol
of all evil assumes the living
shape of the Jew.”
[Adolph Hitler, “Mein
Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 11,
precisely echoing Martin
Luther’s teachings]
~ “The greatness of Christianity
did not lie in attempted negotiations for compromise with any similar
philosophical opinions in the ancient world, but in its inexorable fanaticism
in preaching and fighting for its own doctrine.”
[Adolph Hitler, “Mein Kampf” Vol. 1 Chapter 12]
~ “I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty
Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lords work.”
( Adolf Hitler, in a speech
delivered at Reichstag, Berlin, 1936. )
~ “And the founder of Christianity
made no secret indeed of his
estimation of the Jewish people.
When He found it necessary,
He drove those enemies of the
human race out of the Temple of God.”
[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.174]
~ “….the personification of the
devil as the symbol
of all evil assumes the living
shape of the Jew.”
[Adolph Hitler, “Mein
Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 11,
burqa February 9th, 2015 at 8:58 pm
This whole ridiculous argument has me going back to the historian regarded by many as the best expert on Hitler of our time, Ian Kershaw.
In the coming days I’ll have some quotes for you on how Hitler viewed institutions such as the Church in terms of their power, socially and how he could manipulate them through the sort of rhetoric you quote.
OldLefty February 10th, 2015 at 6:19 am
That’s why the sanctimony is so stupid. ANYBODY can SAY ANYTHING.
burqa February 11th, 2015 at 12:48 am
Indeed, including Alan with this “staunchly Christian” crap. The Nazis were attacking churches and beating up priests and there was widespread opposition to the Nazis from Christians. After all, mandatory sterilization is the kind of thing the Church has opposed.
There’s a difference between using religion in pursuit of a power political agenda and the personal faith of people.
The “church” in Germany was, to use the word employed by Kershaw, “nazified.”
Jews Catholics and capitalists were seen as enemies by the Nazis.
Many Neo-Nazis today aren’t following Hitler’s footsteps in Catholicism, but ascribe to something called Odinism. Those dopes know he was no “staunch” Catholic and it’s a shame that Alan has somehow been deceived, but it helps to explain his ignorance of what liberals of faith are doing and have done in our own country. The Religion Forum on Liberalnd hardly reflects what religious liberals are doing these days and that’s a shame.
We should not concede any slice of the electorate to the conservatives, either. In 2016, if the few Tealiban bigots on the Left become an issue, as well as the passive acceptance of their views by more sensible liberals and, oh, say 20% or so of the Democrats who are believers of one faith or another stay home or vote independent, say hello to a Republican president who will get to, for example, probably select a successor to Ginsburg……
OldLefty February 9th, 2015 at 5:45 pm
. While he said people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ, he was not able to say that people today are currently committing terrible deeds in the name of Mohammad.
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Why should he?
I guess he should have the RNC write his speeches.
John Tarter February 9th, 2015 at 6:38 pm
Because that is the reality. People ARE killing in the name of Mohammad.
Hey, here’s his latest words from a recent interview: “It is entirely legitimate for the American people to be deeply concerned when you’ve got a bunch of violent, vicious zealots who behead people or randomly shoot a bunch of folks in a deli in Paris,” Randomly shoot people? No Mr. President, this was not a random act. Those people were targeted by a Muslim because they were Jews.
OldLefty February 10th, 2015 at 2:05 pm
Yes, it WAS a random act.
cecilia February 9th, 2015 at 9:18 pm
once again missing the point
Hitler never acted like a wonderful person but repeated over and over and over and over again that he was doing the work of god (in his view). HE put on the cloak of religion and waged his war machine with it.. THAT is what you have to learn for this history lesson:
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice. And as a man I have the duty to see to it that human society does not suffer the same catastrophic collapse as did the civilization of the ancient world some two thousand years ago—a civilization which was driven to its ruin through this same Jewish people.
Then indeed when Rome collapsed there were endless streams of new German bands flowing into the Empire from the North; but, if Germany collapses today, who is there to come after us? German blood upon this earth is on the way to gradual exhaustion unless we pull ourselves together and make ourselves free!
And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people are plundered and exploited.
Speech delivered at Munich 12 April 1922; from Norman H. Baynes, ed. (1942). The Speeches of Adolf Hitler: April 1922-August 1939. 1. New York: Oxford University Press. pp. 19-20.
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We are a people of different faiths, but we are one. Which faith conquers the other is not the question; rather, the question is whether Christianity stands or falls… We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity … in fact our movement is Christian. We are filled with a desire for Catholics and Protestants to discover one another in the deep distress of our own people.
Speech in Passau 27 October 1928 Bundesarchiv Berlin-Zehlendorf; from Richard Steigmann-Gall (2003). Holy Reich: Nazi conceptions of Christianity, 1919-1945. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. pp. 60-61.
Wayne White February 10th, 2015 at 6:45 pm
“My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross.”
― Adolf Hitler ( https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/892840-my-feeling-as-a-christian-points-me-to-my-lord )
fancypants February 9th, 2015 at 7:28 pm
The wisdom of john Ashcroft ( gwb attourney general 2001 ) and the middle east..
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Ashcroft: “We are a nation called to defend freedom — a tradition that is not a grant of any government or document, but is an endowment from God.”
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/The-gospel-according-to-John-Ashcroft-2871849.php
burqa February 9th, 2015 at 8:46 pm
Obama’s point was that murderous zealots have tried to justify their crimes by hiding behind Christianity the same way murderous zealots are doing with Islam.
Not sure if this helps the bigots who just want to throw rocks.
On the Right we have people who want to paint Islam as being represented by the terrorists and on the Left we have a mirror image with the same hate being directed against Christianity in a similarly stereotypical way.
The irrationality of each is highlighted when we ask the bigots on the Right about the over 1 billion Muslims (including millions in the U.S.) who are living peaceful lives and are positive, contributing members of society. They clam right up.
Same thing happens when the bigots on the Left are asked about a billion or so Christians who aren’t out on killing sprees, or when asked to describe what Christians are doing right where they live. They, too, get real quiet-like.
Neither are willing to recognize the fact that we should hold both to the same standard, nor are they willing to be logical and judge both groups by what the overwhelming majority are doing.
Hate blinds like that.